Fake speed sign - legalities
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This 'speed sign' has been nailed to a telegraph pole for some years now on a NSL stretch of road between villages.
It is on what is probably a regular weekend motorcycle route which may have prompted it but 'coming soon' it certainly is not and I really don't understand why it has not been taken down.
Specifically it is on the B1054 between Steeple Bumpstead and Hempstead - here https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.0280125,0.39903,...
It is on what is probably a regular weekend motorcycle route which may have prompted it but 'coming soon' it certainly is not and I really don't understand why it has not been taken down.
Specifically it is on the B1054 between Steeple Bumpstead and Hempstead - here https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.0280125,0.39903,...
Our local highways authority removes all unauthorised road signs (includes advertising, banners etc as well as this sort of thing, they even recently removed someone's fake speed camera from their garden) under the Road Traffic act 1984.
They encourage the public to report them on the fixmystreet website.
They encourage the public to report them on the fixmystreet website.
Edited by Desiderata on Wednesday 30th September 06:44
Boosted LS1 said:
^ Because it's an NSL.
DoubleD said:
And?
I get the impression the vast majority of people don't know what the NSL is so adding random signs with the wrong information is hardly an improvement & should be removed asap. In less of course you are a proud member of the 40mph everywhere crew who think they are the SAFE ones on the road
It's similar to all the "20 is plenty" signs that have been popping up in nearly every village and town around the Cotswolds, you see many people carry on at 25-35mph but every now an again you see someone doing barely 15mph and getting overtaken which is even more ridiculous.
IamJacksContempt said:
I thought this thread was going to be about all the legitimate speed camera signs you see everywhere despite there being no actual speed cameras in the vicinity...
I understand that these signs are displayed in areas where mobile camera vans operate. Even if there are no fixed speed cameras, the camera warning signs must still be in place in locations where the mobile cameras may be sited.aka_kerrly said:
It's similar to all the "20 is plenty" signs that have been popping up in nearly every village and town around the Cotswolds, you see many people carry on at 25-35mph but every now an again you see someone doing barely 15mph and getting overtaken which is even more ridiculous.
there's a 20mph limit at the bottom of my village in a bit that has a few rows of popular shops. Everyone ignores it, be it car drivers, bus drivers and even the local constabulary. Signs like the above would annoy me and I would rip it down if I lived close.
aka_kerrly said:
I get the impression the vast majority of people don't know what the NSL is so adding random signs with the wrong information is hardly an improvement & should be removed asap. In less of course you are a proud member of the 40mph everywhere crew who think they are the SAFE ones on the road
It's similar to all the "20 is plenty" signs that have been popping up in nearly every village and town around the Cotswolds, you see many people carry on at 25-35mph but every now an again you see someone doing barely 15mph and getting overtaken which is even more ridiculous.
What makes you think that? Ive never met anybody who didn't understand what it means. Although I do know someone who thought that it also meant 60mph on a dual carriageway. It's similar to all the "20 is plenty" signs that have been popping up in nearly every village and town around the Cotswolds, you see many people carry on at 25-35mph but every now an again you see someone doing barely 15mph and getting overtaken which is even more ridiculous.
DoubleD said:
What makes you think that? Ive never met anybody who didn't understand what it means. Although I do know someone who thought that it also meant 60mph on a dual carriageway.
There is a view that 50mph for (non car-derived) vans on a single carriageway is a problem when cars are doing 65-ish. This can lead to frustration and risky overtaking. In practice, it seems most vans go at 60 (ignorance or deliberate) and the police turn a blind eye. Most cameras are in lower speed zones, so no issue there. (Scotland, of course, has 40mph limit for >7.5tonne goods vehicles on single carriageways, and sometimes locally signed down to 40mph on dual carriageways)Om said:
I understand that these signs are displayed in areas where mobile camera vans operate. Even if there are no fixed speed cameras, the camera warning signs must still be in place in locations where the mobile cameras may be sited.
Rubbish, there is no legal requirement for camera warning signs for fixed or mobile camerasGassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff