Drunk named driver wrote 30K car off
Drunk named driver wrote 30K car off
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Lee987lee

Original Poster:

15 posts

164 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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so basically my mates been an idiot!
Its not something he normally does but its happened now and he's got away without hurting himself or anyone else. (luckily)

He was driving home after a funeral and piled his Mrs car up, he went into someone's fence. He called the cops him self, but he was over the limit.

Tesco are not going to be paying out even though it was not his car or his policy, I'd fully understand if it was his car and his insurance but the car belonged to his partner and it was her insurance policy.

When he took the car he was fully insured and sober. Surely its not the owners fault what he did she had no say in what happened but she has just lost a 30K car

Is this normal?

outnumbered

4,872 posts

263 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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I think it is quite normal, yes. AIUI with some insurers, cover effectively becomes 3rd party only if you're drunk.

bigandclever

14,355 posts

267 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Lee987lee said:
so basically my mates been an idiot!
Its not something he normally does but its happened now and he's got away without hurting himself or anyone else. (luckily)

He was driving home after a funeral and piled his Mrs car up, he went into someone's fence. He called the cops him self, but he was over the limit.

Tesco are not going to be paying out even though it was not his car or his policy, I'd fully understand if it was his car and his insurance but the car belonged to his partner and it was her insurance policy.

When he took the car he was fully insured and sober. Surely its not the owners fault what he did she had no say in what happened but she has just lost a 30K car

Is this normal?
Looks like she’s suing him then.

mcflurry

9,189 posts

282 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Is the car written off, or needing a few £1000 worth of repairs?

Lee987lee

Original Poster:

15 posts

164 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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mcflurry said:
Is the car written off, or needing a few £1000 worth of repairs?
yes defo wrote off, every panel, all wheels and all lights, it must have spun down the fence bet it'd be 15K to fix

Monkeylegend

29,207 posts

260 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Presumably he was a named driver on her insurance?

How could he have been sober when he took the car but over the limit when he crashed?

That sounds like he really was drinking whilst driving.

He did have her permission to take the car or was she with him at the time?

Edited by Monkeylegend on Tuesday 26th January 15:20

pinchmeimdreamin

10,892 posts

247 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Monkeylegend said:
How could he have been sober when he took the car but over the limit when he crashed?

That sounds like he really was drinking whilst driving.
Lee987lee said:
He was driving home after a funeral

Monkeylegend

29,207 posts

260 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
Monkeylegend said:
How could he have been sober when he took the car but over the limit when he crashed?

That sounds like he really was drinking whilst driving.
Lee987lee said:
He was driving home after a funeral
smile

I get it now, so he was on his own idea

I'm old smile

Tim2k9

132 posts

108 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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From reading the policy booklet looks like they won't be getting paid out on the car and hopefully the fence isn't too expensive to repair either

Section 11 - https://www.tescobank.com/assets/tesco-car-insuran...

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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outnumbered said:
I think it is quite normal, yes. AIUI with some insurers, cover effectively becomes 3rd party only if you're drunk.
It's not normal, but yes, it's a condition with many of the cheaper crappier policies like Admiral Group etc. It's an awful condition to impose on a policy, especially when it applies to additional drivers.

Most decent policies with proper insurers like Aviva etc will only impose this restriction if you've disclosed a previous drink drive offence when applying for the insurance.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Tim2k9 said:
From reading the policy booklet looks like they won't be getting paid out on the car and hopefully the fence isn't too expensive to repair either

Section 11 - https://www.tescobank.com/assets/tesco-car-insuran...
Christ, so there's no cover whatsoever, not even third party. No wonder these policies are dirt cheap.

normalbloke

8,861 posts

248 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Tim2k9 said:
From reading the policy booklet looks like they won't be getting paid out on the car and hopefully the fence isn't too expensive to repair either

Section 11 - https://www.tescobank.com/assets/tesco-car-insuran...
Christ, so there's no cover whatsoever, not even third party. No wonder these policies are dirt cheap.
I didn’t think it was possible to wriggle out of their third party liability?

Tim2k9

132 posts

108 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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normalbloke said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Tim2k9 said:
From reading the policy booklet looks like they won't be getting paid out on the car and hopefully the fence isn't too expensive to repair either

Section 11 - https://www.tescobank.com/assets/tesco-car-insuran...
Christ, so there's no cover whatsoever, not even third party. No wonder these policies are dirt cheap.
I didn’t think it was possible to wriggle out of their third party liability?
They will pay the third party claim but reserve the right to claim it back from you.

megaphone

11,653 posts

280 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Why just drink and drugs, surely any illegal activity should be on the list? Crash whilst speeding over the limit, no cover. All are choices the driver makes.

Countdown

49,366 posts

225 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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megaphone said:
Why just drink and drugs, surely any illegal activity should be on the list? Crash whilst speeding over the limit, no cover. All are choices the driver makes.
Would there be a "downside to that? Obviously there is if you've been a dick and have to claim but OTOH if you drive like the famous Miss Daisy you'd get cheaper insurance? scratchchin

bigandclever

14,355 posts

267 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Countdown said:
megaphone said:
Why just drink and drugs, surely any illegal activity should be on the list? Crash whilst speeding over the limit, no cover. All are choices the driver makes.
Would there be a "downside to that? Obviously there is if you've been a dick and have to claim but OTOH if you drive like the famous Miss Daisy you'd get cheaper insurance? scratchchin
Except that Miss Daisy was a st driver. Kind of why her son gifted her a chauffeur smile

Countdown

49,366 posts

225 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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bigandclever said:
Countdown said:
megaphone said:
Why just drink and drugs, surely any illegal activity should be on the list? Crash whilst speeding over the limit, no cover. All are choices the driver makes.
Would there be a "downside to that? Obviously there is if you've been a dick and have to claim but OTOH if you drive like the famous Miss Daisy you'd get cheaper insurance? scratchchin
Except that Miss Daisy was a st driver. Kind of why her son gifted her a chauffeur smile
Bad example perhaps smile but the principle of "Obey the law = cheaper insurance" sounds good to me (in principle).

super7

2,251 posts

237 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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My Son also did this foolish thing and his insurer paid out for the 3rd party, i.e. they'll fix the fence as they have a legal obligation to cover it.

They wouldn't pay out for his car, which was a £750 Skoda, so no big loss..... but they DID come back later and try and sue him for the what they paid out on the house he hit, which was 23k. The house owner understandably took the opportunity to have a BIG revamp, replacing everything within eyesight of the crash....

They came round and interviewed him to see if they could get away with suing him. When they realised he had zero assets they sent him a letter to say that's the end of it and to not use them ever again.

Your mate, will be paying for the car (was it on lease / pcp) redface and will be chased for the fence. Which will be done to the most expensive standard possible. His misses will need to sue him to get anything
back!

If it's a lease / hp / or pcp, that car will need to paid for!

Edited by super7 on Tuesday 26th January 16:25

PH_77

1,411 posts

122 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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Tim2k9 said:
normalbloke said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Tim2k9 said:
From reading the policy booklet looks like they won't be getting paid out on the car and hopefully the fence isn't too expensive to repair either

Section 11 - https://www.tescobank.com/assets/tesco-car-insuran...
Christ, so there's no cover whatsoever, not even third party. No wonder these policies are dirt cheap.
I didn’t think it was possible to wriggle out of their third party liability?
They will pay the third party claim but reserve the right to claim it back from you.
I believe they will almost certainly try and claim it back if it's a significant amount. Luckily no one was badly injured as some insurers would take you to the cleaners. Good bye to any significant assets etc.

98elise

32,568 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th January 2021
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megaphone said:
Why just drink and drugs, surely any illegal activity should be on the list? Crash whilst speeding over the limit, no cover. All are choices the driver makes.
It's entirely up to the insurer what they offer to cover.

I don't drink and drive so the current restrictions wouldn't bother me. I wouldn't buy a policy that had a speed limit get out though, and I suspect many others wouldn't.

They wouldn't have a insurance business after a while.