The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March
The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March
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knitware

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1,486 posts

222 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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From gov.uk:
'The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place. People should continue to work from home where they can and minimise the number of journeys they make where possible, avoiding travel at the busiest times and routes.'

Just a clarification really. Hypothetically, from Monday, will it be lawful to get out of bed at 6am, drive 150 miles into the Peak District, cut across to Lincolnshire and drive 200 miles home, and at any time during that journey, should I get stopped by the law, do I have to give reason for the journey, or simply say I'm just going for a drive?


ruggedscotty

5,992 posts

238 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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knitware said:
From gov.uk:
'The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place. People should continue to work from home where they can and minimise the number of journeys they make where possible, avoiding travel at the busiest times and routes.'

Just a clarification really. Hypothetically, from Monday, will it be lawful to get out of bed at 6am, drive 150 miles into the Peak District, cut across to Lincolnshire and drive 200 miles home, and at any time during that journey, should I get stopped by the law, do I have to give reason for the journey, or simply say I'm just going for a drive?
by all means crack on. you would be able to do this legally as long as you were back home and did not need to stay overnight at a location that was not your home. grey area if you have a holiday home you should be able to stay there.

if stopped by the law and they ask you then you will have to gove a reason. much the same as anytime the law stop you and ask a question. fail to answer and you could be arrested. but that was the case before covid anyways.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-1...

Travel

The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place. People should continue to work from home where they can and minimise the number of journeys they make where possible, avoiding travel at the busiest times and routes. Travel abroad will continue to be prohibited, other than for a small number of permitted reasons. Holidays abroad will not be allowed, given it will remain important to manage the risk of imported variants and protect the vaccination programme. The government has launched a new taskforce to review global travel which will report on 12 April.

So really although the trip could be construed as within the guidelines, the reality would be should you. Would a journey for the sake of a journey be wise ?

scottyp123

3,881 posts

85 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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ruggedscotty said:
knitware said:
From gov.uk:
'The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place. People should continue to work from home where they can and minimise the number of journeys they make where possible, avoiding travel at the busiest times and routes.'

Just a clarification really. Hypothetically, from Monday, will it be lawful to get out of bed at 6am, drive 150 miles into the Peak District, cut across to Lincolnshire and drive 200 miles home, and at any time during that journey, should I get stopped by the law, do I have to give reason for the journey, or simply say I'm just going for a drive?
by all means crack on. you would be able to do this legally as long as you were back home and did not need to stay overnight at a location that was not your home. grey area if you have a holiday home you should be able to stay there.

if stopped by the law and they ask you then you will have to gove a reason. much the same as anytime the law stop you and ask a question. fail to answer and you could be arrested. but that was the case before covid anyways.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-1...

Travel

The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place. People should continue to work from home where they can and minimise the number of journeys they make where possible, avoiding travel at the busiest times and routes. Travel abroad will continue to be prohibited, other than for a small number of permitted reasons. Holidays abroad will not be allowed, given it will remain important to manage the risk of imported variants and protect the vaccination programme. The government has launched a new taskforce to review global travel which will report on 12 April.

So really although the trip could be construed as within the guidelines, the reality would be should you. Would a journey for the sake of a journey be wise ?
You have to give your name and address when stopped but I don't think you are required to answer any other questions are you? It would come under the road traffic act I believe.

NGee

2,931 posts

193 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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So what actually changes when the 'stay at home rule' ends?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,006 posts

264 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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NGee said:
So what actually changes when the 'stay at home rule' ends?
We don't have to stay at home.

NGee

2,931 posts

193 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
NGee said:
So what actually changes when the 'stay at home rule' ends?
We don't have to stay at home.
We don't have to at the moment, so what changes?

bad company

21,919 posts

295 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
NGee said:
So what actually changes when the 'stay at home rule' ends?
We don't have to stay at home.
laugh

That pretty much sums it up.

spookly

4,390 posts

124 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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Nobody has been paying any attention to that rule anyway.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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spookly said:
Nobody has been paying any attention to that rule anyway.
Yep. Everyone got fed up after the last two lock downs. Lock down number 3 was like no lock down at all.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

290 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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knitware said:
From gov.uk:
'The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place. People should continue to work from home where they can and minimise the number of journeys they make where possible, avoiding travel at the busiest times and routes.'

Just a clarification really. Hypothetically, from Monday, will it be lawful to get out of bed at 6am, drive 150 miles into the Peak District, cut across to Lincolnshire and drive 200 miles home, and at any time during that journey, should I get stopped by the law, do I have to give reason for the journey, or simply say I'm just going for a drive?
Going out for a drive is fine. There are 'guidelines' to stay local etc, so you can't guarantee a bored copper won't decide it's a law.

What's with the 6AM start anyway? All I'm wondering is whether to stay up past my usual bedtime and set off at 00.01, or have a really really early night and set the alarm for 23:30.

mickyh7

2,347 posts

115 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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Dr Jekyll said:
Going out for a drive is fine. There are 'guidelines' to stay local etc, so you can't guarantee a bored copper won't decide it's a law.

What's with the 6AM start anyway? All I'm wondering is whether to stay up past my usual bedtime and set off at 00.01, or have a really really early night and set the alarm for 23:30.
So if you do get stopped refuse the fine,and have your day in court.
They will have to find you not guilty. Or really,throw the case out as no law was broken.
Sorted.

Pit Pony

11,260 posts

150 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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mickyh7 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Going out for a drive is fine. There are 'guidelines' to stay local etc, so you can't guarantee a bored copper won't decide it's a law.

What's with the 6AM start anyway? All I'm wondering is whether to stay up past my usual bedtime and set off at 00.01, or have a really really early night and set the alarm for 23:30.
So if you do get stopped refuse the fine,and have your day in court.
They will have to find you not guilty. Or really,throw the case out as no law was broken.
Sorted.
It's alot of hassle though..

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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Pit Pony said:
mickyh7 said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Going out for a drive is fine. There are 'guidelines' to stay local etc, so you can't guarantee a bored copper won't decide it's a law.

What's with the 6AM start anyway? All I'm wondering is whether to stay up past my usual bedtime and set off at 00.01, or have a really really early night and set the alarm for 23:30.
So if you do get stopped refuse the fine,and have your day in court.
They will have to find you not guilty. Or really,throw the case out as no law was broken.
Sorted.
It's alot of hassle though..
Indeed. How's he supposed to get to court if he's just had a fine for being out? laugh

mickyh7

2,347 posts

115 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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Pit Pony said:
It's alot of hassle though..
Then dont do it!
It's a matter of choice.
Few lads I work with have been doing a couple of hundred mile runs on their Motorcyles every weekend since the weather has been better.
Never been stopped once?

Pit Pony

11,260 posts

150 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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mickyh7 said:
Pit Pony said:
It's alot of hassle though..
Then dont do it!
It's a matter of choice.
Few lads I work with have been doing a couple of hundred mile runs on their Motorcyles every weekend since the weather has been better.
Never been stopped once?
I have an excuse for travelling to.my second home. Because my client is local to it. Wife wont come as being my chauffeur is apparently not what I pay her for.

djohnson

3,681 posts

252 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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My understanding is that the legal requirement to have a reasonable excuse to be outside of your home ends on Monday. So long as you don’t break the gathering rules I believe you’re perfectly at liberty to do as you suggest in the original post. The requirement to stay local is guidance which isn’t enforceable.

The police haven’t been great so far at understanding where the law stops and guidance starts. Hopefully they should have less trouble with communicating clearly to their officers on the ground that the legal restriction on leaving home has ended, it’s hard to get that one wrong. Hence I’d hope there won’t be any police challenging people on the justification for their journeys.

mickyh7

2,347 posts

115 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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My fear is loads of people who haven't driven for months, will all be out at once on the roads!
It will be carnage out there.

PH User

22,154 posts

137 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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ruggedscotty said:
So really although the trip could be construed as within the guidelines, the reality would be should you. Would a journey for the sake of a journey be wise ?
Why would it be unwise?

djohnson

3,681 posts

252 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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mickyh7 said:
My fear is loads of people who haven't driven for months, will all be out at once on the roads!
It will be carnage out there.
I’ve been out and about quite a bit, traffic levels have been pretty normal round here.

valiant

14,158 posts

189 months

Saturday 27th March 2021
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mickyh7 said:
My fear is loads of people who haven't driven for months, will all be out at once on the roads!
It will be carnage out there.
Was reading somewhere that traffic is something like 83% of normal levels at the moment.

You won’t notice much of a difference.