EBay - Buyer wanting to return used diagnostic scanner
EBay - Buyer wanting to return used diagnostic scanner
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D1on

Original Poster:

818 posts

215 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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A fortnight ago i sold an obd diagnostic scanner on Ebay
It was as new and had only been used once to read a code, Posted out using special delivery.
14 days later the buyer gets in touch and says he has incurred a problem with his car because he has used the scanner without experience and has made his car go into limp mode therefore he wants to return it to me.
I've said no as the item isn't faulty and i stated in the listing 'no returns'
He goes on to rant and swear at me by ebay message.
If he opens a case, will i have a leg to stand on with regards ebay?
Seems to me he's probably bought it, diagnosed his problem and now wants to return it for a refund.

Narcisus

9,071 posts

309 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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D1on said:
A fortnight ago i sold an obd diagnostic scanner on Ebay
It was as new and had only been used once to read a code, Posted out using special delivery.
14 days later the buyer gets in touch and says he has incurred a problem with his car because he has used the scanner without experience and has made his car go into limp mode therefore he wants to return it to me.
I've said no as the item isn't faulty and i stated in the listing 'no returns'
He goes on to rant and swear at me by ebay message.
If he opens a case, will i have a leg to stand on with regards ebay?
Seems to me he's probably bought it, diagnosed his problem and now wants to return it for a refund.
Give eBay a call and explain the situation they will put a note on your account in case he opens a dispute.

D1on

Original Poster:

818 posts

215 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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Narcisus said:
Give eBay a call and explain the situation they will put a note on your account in case he opens a dispute.
I will tomorrow smile
Its just so annoying getting abuse off these random people when doing nothing wrong!

Edited by D1on on Sunday 2nd May 21:49

SteveR1979

601 posts

170 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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D1on said:
I will tomorrow smile
Its just so annoying getting abuse off these random people when doing nothing wrong!

Edited by D1on on Sunday 2nd May 21:49
You have an address as you sent it to him.
Send him a box of st in the post.

D1on

Original Poster:

818 posts

215 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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SteveR1979 said:
You have an address as you sent it to him.
Send him a box of st in the post.
Its a thought!
Worrying thing is though i think he will also have my address through paypal?

NGee

2,931 posts

193 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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D1on said:
Its just so annoying getting abuse off these random people when doing nothing wrong!
Welcome to the world of Ebay. 99% of buyers and sellers are decent, honest people but if you meet an ahole you will never win, especially as Ebay will nearly always side with the buyer. Just don't let it wind you up.

Steve1979 has the right answer, just wait a few weeks and he'll never know where it's come from!!

numtumfutunch

5,172 posts

167 months

Sunday 2nd May 2021
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NGee said:
Welcome to the world of Ebay. 99% of buyers and sellers are decent, honest people but if you meet an ahole you will never win, especially as Ebay will nearly always side with the buyer. Just don't let it wind you up.

Steve1979 has the right answer, just wait a few weeks and he'll never know where it's come from!!
Agreed

Have used ebay off and on for years selling occasional stuff and as long as you appreciate a) you will get significantly more cash for your stuff due to the wider audience and b) that 1% of buyers are arses then youll be fine

In the last year Ive sold approx 100 things for far more than Id have got flogging locally and 1 buyer had remorse and flagged an issue resulting in me being out of pocket paying for his postage there and back. Annoying yes but on balance Im up

Drawweight

3,595 posts

145 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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If he’s sent an email saying the item is working correctly and it was his inexperience that caused the fault in the car then you should be off the hook.

Someone I know sold a jacket that didn’t fit the buyer because the buyer didn’t understand the sizing. He got an email from the buyer saying as much and eBay backed him up.

Contact customer services and they should confirm the same.

Ziplobb

1,602 posts

313 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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SteveR1979 said:
You have an address as you sent it to him.
Send him a box of st in the post.
Better still give us all his address so we can too and send bricks without postge so he gets charged

oblio

5,603 posts

256 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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When you do ring them, get them to read the message trail as well which will show you as being truthful and them as being twonks!

I have found Ebay very useful when I had a couple of disputes...once you get through all the American "thank you for reaching out to us" malarky that is biggrin

Colonel Cupcake

1,419 posts

74 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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NGee said:
D1on said:
Its just so annoying getting abuse off these random people when doing nothing wrong!
Welcome to the world of Ebay. 99% of buyers and sellers are decent, honest people but if you meet an ahole you will never win, especially as Ebay will nearly always side with the buyer. Just don't let it wind you up.

Steve1979 has the right answer, just wait a few weeks and he'll never know where it's come from!!
When I have an arsewipe buyer, I just spend a few days siging them up to any mailing list I can find. I never tick the 'don't pass on my details' box either.

Some of the numbnuts should be snowed under on a daily basis by now. Sorry postie.

Voldemort

7,554 posts

307 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Ziplobb said:
SteveR1979 said:
You have an address as you sent it to him.
Send him a box of st in the post.
Better still give us all his address so we can too and send bricks without postge so he gets charged
Please explain how you get a brick into the postal system without paying for it..?

Stoofa

959 posts

197 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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D1on said:
A fortnight ago i sold an obd diagnostic scanner on Ebay
It was as new and had only been used once to read a code, Posted out using special delivery.
14 days later the buyer gets in touch and says he has incurred a problem with his car because he has used the scanner without experience and has made his car go into limp mode therefore he wants to return it to me.
I've said no as the item isn't faulty and i stated in the listing 'no returns'
He goes on to rant and swear at me by ebay message.
If he opens a case, will i have a leg to stand on with regards ebay?
Seems to me he's probably bought it, diagnosed his problem and now wants to return it for a refund.
Unfortunately Ebay's "buyer is always right" policy is potentially going to bite you.
There are a lot of good buyers on Ebay, my selling history shows this - however there are also some really terrible ones and Ebay will always protect them.
All he has to do is raise a "damaged" or "not as described" and almost certainly you'll end up refunding him - very difficult to win as a seller.

NGee

2,931 posts

193 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Voldemort said:
Please explain how you get a brick into the postal system without paying for it..?
You use a roof slate and post it in a letter box.

Graveworm

9,220 posts

100 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Stoofa said:
D1on said:
A fortnight ago i sold an obd diagnostic scanner on Ebay
It was as new and had only been used once to read a code, Posted out using special delivery.
14 days later the buyer gets in touch and says he has incurred a problem with his car because he has used the scanner without experience and has made his car go into limp mode therefore he wants to return it to me.
I've said no as the item isn't faulty and i stated in the listing 'no returns'
He goes on to rant and swear at me by ebay message.
If he opens a case, will i have a leg to stand on with regards ebay?
Seems to me he's probably bought it, diagnosed his problem and now wants to return it for a refund.
Unfortunately Ebay's "buyer is always right" policy is potentially going to bite you.
There are a lot of good buyers on Ebay, my selling history shows this - however there are also some really terrible ones and Ebay will always protect them.
All he has to do is raise a "damaged" or "not as described" and almost certainly you'll end up refunding him - very difficult to win as a seller.
I and the wife have sold hundreds of things on Ebay, I accept returns for anything except clothes, my wife doesn't accept returns. A handful of times, people have tried to take the mickey, it's never resulted in it costing us money, but a couple of times Ebay themselves have paid out the buyer anyway, as a goodwill gesture.

oblio

5,603 posts

256 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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Graveworm said:
I and the wife have sold hundreds of things on Ebay, I accept returns for anything except clothes, my wife doesn't accept returns. A handful of times, people have tried to take the mickey, it's never resulted in it costing us money, but a couple of times Ebay themselves have paid out the buyer anyway, as a goodwill gesture.
On the couple of occasions I had trouble with my buyers, Ebay were great. As you say, they refunded me also. I think it helped that there was a good, sensible email trail for them to look at.

Then I whacked the buyers involved on the 'Not allowed to buy off me again' list, so I didn't have trouble from them in the future!

mike-v2tmf

888 posts

108 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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I got fed up with E-bay's percentage and Paypals too , now if I have anything to sell I use Facebook Marketplace ......so far been well pleased

cowbit

72 posts

70 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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mike-v2tmf said:
I got fed up with E-bay's percentage and Paypals too , now if I have anything to sell I use Facebook Marketplace ......so far been well pleased
This has just changed. eBay is no longer using PayPal but doing the work itself.

mick987

1,825 posts

139 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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As someone who makes his living selling on eBay, if the buyer pushes it you will have to refund him his money and pay the postage to get your item back. eBay always sides with the buyer it is just a cost of doing business with them.

defblade

8,053 posts

242 months

Monday 3rd May 2021
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D1on said:
A fortnight ago i sold an obd diagnostic scanner on Ebay
It was as new and had only been used once to read a code, Posted out using special delivery.
14 days later the buyer gets in touch and says he has incurred a problem with his car because he has used the scanner without experience and has made his car go into limp mode therefore he wants to return it to me.
Drawweight said:
If he’s sent an email saying the item is working correctly and it was his inexperience that caused the fault in the car then you should be off the hook.
More to the point, I can't see any possible way that an OBD reader can cause a problem, leave alone put a car into limp mode.
They can tell you codes are stored, and usually let you clear/reset (along with associated lights) them - after which they may recur, or not, but it's nothing to do with the reader.