Advice from BiB for a job I'm doing
Advice from BiB for a job I'm doing
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parrot of doom

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23,075 posts

264 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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Tomorrow night I'll be doing an 2000-0400 shift with the police, recording sound (tagging along behind a cameraman).

Any tips on what to do/not to do? I don't know yet if its in a van, car, or on foot. It will be around a city/town centre, so I'm expecting a fair amount of drunkedness.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

274 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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Be alert, very alert at incidents.

Wear old clothing as you could be gobbed on,

Watch your equipment and nail it down.

Do as your told by BiB.

Hope it kicks off (not really) to show you just what crap they have deal with.

DVD

miniandy

1,512 posts

267 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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parrot of doom said:
recording sound (tagging along behind a cameraman)


Is this for one of those street crime 4 type programs?

apache

39,731 posts

314 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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parrot of doom said:
Tomorrow night I'll be doing an 2000-0400 shift with the police, recording sound (tagging along behind a cameraman).

Any tips on what to do/not to do? I don't know yet if its in a van, car, or on foot. It will be around a city/town centre, so I'm expecting a fair amount of drunkedness.


As far as I know they don't drink on duty, sorry mate

gone

6,649 posts

293 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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Ask IOLAIRE. He has an answer for everything relating to the police. I suspect his advice will be stay at home !

gone

6,649 posts

293 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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Develop eyes up your arse! You may need them when you are surrounded by pissed up chavs with a mission. You will be the centre of their attention!

As DVD said be careful with your equipment!

I hope you are not offended by bad language directed at you! If you are post back quickly and I will abuse you a lot on here so you are used to it.

If they ask you to stop recording, then do as they say! This will not be to cover up a dodgy issue, it will be for operational reasons.

Hamster

136 posts

267 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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Wear a seatbelt, especially if they take you to a Tesco's

H

parrot of doom

Original Poster:

23,075 posts

264 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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heh, its with mounted police in a busy city centre.

The company are providing the equipment tonight, if I have to drop it and run I'd rather do it with someone else's gear, not mine

Should be interesting, I've worked with horsies many times and they don't like booms

'King Deadly

196 posts

267 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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gone said:
If they ask you to stop recording, then do as they say! This will not be to cover up a dodgy issue, it will be for operational reasons.


silverback mike

11,293 posts

283 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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Have fun, those shifts are generally pretty busy. It's true what everyone has said so far, you need to develop 360 degree vision, making sure you leave a bit of a space for some quick reaction.


It's quite funny watching a load of very drunk people when you are stone cold sober.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

274 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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parrot of doom said:
heh, its with mounted police in a busy city centre.

The company are providing the equipment tonight, if I have to drop it and run I'd rather do it with someone else's gear, not mine

Should be interesting, I've worked with horsies many times and they don't like booms


Don't forget to wear welly boots then. You will be working amongst better class crap that smells, is hard to get off the shoes and doesn't half make a mess of the carpet.

DVD

(Two classic gonerisms above duly noted.....)

silverback mike

11,293 posts

283 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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I applied for mounted section. Gits wouldn't let me join, too heavy. That's weightist that is.
Couldn't even bring my own 'orse.

Back onto topic, the horses are excellent crowd control devices, and in a disorder situation it does tend to calm down even the most unruly of individuals, seeing one of those things thunder towards you is an awesome sight.

Bet they chew on your boom though

Flat in Fifth

48,810 posts

281 months

Saturday 16th July 2005
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silverback mike said:
Back onto topic, the horses are excellent crowd control devices, and in a disorder situation it does tend to calm down even the most unruly of individuals, seeing one of those things thunder towards you is an awesome sight.

Ah but is the awesome sight the horse or WPC Prodworthy's strapping thighs? Crack walnuts that girl.

parrot of doom

Original Poster:

23,075 posts

264 months

Sunday 17th July 2005
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Wow, what an eye-opener. We walked around Manchester city centre all night (I reckon I walked a good 10 miles all told) following the horses and their passengers.

I've always had an automatic respect for authority from my father, but to see the two WPCs in action was great.

We did a stop and search of some lads in a park, the entire process took about 30 minutes - 20 of those filling in the forms, which were fantastically complicated. Bearocracy in action.

We then had a lad who had run into a wall, broken his nose, and possible dislocated/broken both elbows. Its interesting how the presence of a tv camera crew can inflame the situation, as the policewomen spent a fair amount of time defending us from the anger of the lad's friends. Try telling a person with 5+ pints down them that in a public area we can film whatever we like.... They didn't argue with the horses though. What makes it worse for them is that their drunken actions make it more likely they'll be on TV, as we don't need their permission. Oh well, they'll learn.....

Had another few incidents, and an arrest of a very obnoxious person who swore, threatened, and then mooned the police..... Its amazing how people calm down when they see a feckoff massive horse trotting towards them, and a policewoman politely but authoritatively telling them to stand still! Lots of bystanders charged in trying to defend the arrestee, but they of course only knew half the story, they didn't see or hear the fowl language and threatening behaviour, the indecent exposure was the final straw.

My respect for these officers is massive. The professionalism displayed in some quite dangerous situations was very impressive, their ability to remain calm but effective, and their restraint when being sworn at, these guys should be on much more money.

A brilliant night out, very enjoyable. I'm knackered though, having got home at 5AM!

silverback mike

11,293 posts

283 months

Sunday 17th July 2005
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Glad you enjoyed it. It can be a fantastically rewarding, but frustrating job sometimes.

gone

6,649 posts

293 months

Sunday 17th July 2005
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I am glad you had a good insight into what most of us do everynight of the week when on lates and night shifts.

Maybe you can understand where some of the police opinions that get posted on here actually come from now you have had a tatse of what we do!

I have never ridden a horse but was on the same section working police dogs for 11 years and often with them at public order type stuff (events and football matches). I have several good mates who still ride them for the job. Give me a furry exocet anyday to contend with. Get me on one of those 20,000 tins of kitty cat!!! No way, they have a mind of their own and no off switch!

>> Edited by gone on Sunday 17th July 22:05

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

279 months

Sunday 17th July 2005
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parrot of doom said:
Wow, what an eye-opener. We walked around Manchester city centre all night (I reckon I walked a good 10 miles all told) following the horses and their passengers.

I've always had an automatic respect for authority from my father, but to see the two WPCs in action was great.

We did a stop and search of some lads in a park, the entire process took about 30 minutes - 20 of those filling in the forms, which were fantastically complicated. Bearocracy in action.

We then had a lad who had run into a wall, broken his nose, and possible dislocated/broken both elbows. Its interesting how the presence of a tv camera crew can inflame the situation, as the policewomen spent a fair amount of time defending us from the anger of the lad's friends. Try telling a person with 5+ pints down them that in a public area we can film whatever we like.... They didn't argue with the horses though. What makes it worse for them is that their drunken actions make it more likely they'll be on TV, as we don't need their permission. Oh well, they'll learn.....

Had another few incidents, and an arrest of a very obnoxious person who swore, threatened, and then mooned the police..... Its amazing how people calm down when they see a feckoff massive horse trotting towards them, and a policewoman politely but authoritatively telling them to stand still! Lots of bystanders charged in trying to defend the arrestee, but they of course only knew half the story, they didn't see or hear the fowl language and threatening behaviour, the indecent exposure was the final straw.

My respect for these officers is massive. The professionalism displayed in some quite dangerous situations was very impressive, their ability to remain calm but effective, and their restraint when being sworn at, these guys should be on much more money.

A brilliant night out, very enjoyable. I'm knackered though, having got home at 5AM!


Sounds like an average night out in most towns/city centres,i recently had a weekend out with my girlfriend in Manchester(she's a Manc and she showed me the ropes)she took me to the Gay part (c)anal (s)treet where we had a realy good night out,hey how come theres always a cool attitude in these places with no trouble but the minute you hit the straight areas its totaly different,i loved the place and liken it to Amsterdam,i too had a brilliant night out.

parrot of doom

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23,075 posts

264 months

Tuesday 19th July 2005
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Aye, we went to Canal Street and it was pretty lovey-dovey there, not really any problems.

I'm hoping I get more of this kind of work, I really enjoyed it. You might not believe it, but if I wasn't doing this job I've often considered if I'd think about joining the police. I guess I just like working outdoors, its what I've always done.