Met Police and TfL are lying so & so's
Met Police and TfL are lying so & so's
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silverfoxcc

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8,400 posts

174 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Confused .com asked every force in uk what their speed camera thresholds were

These replied saying they used 10% plus 3mph

They don't .My lad go one on the A40 at Northolt for 46.6 ok i know but.......

ARHarh

4,892 posts

136 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Both tickets I have had have been 35mph in a 30mph, say no more. I did think it was 10% +2mph though.

TwistingMyMelon

6,507 posts

234 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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so 0.4 mph diff then

Blimey get on to the Daily Mail now

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

266 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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What did Avon & Somerset say?

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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TwistingMyMelon said:
so 0.4 mph diff then

Blimey get on to the Daily Mail now
You forgot to emotion compo face.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Hmm, 57 in a 50 a few weeks ago. Northumbria.

Om

2,185 posts

107 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Riley Blue said:
Which all state (where given) the threshold is 10% plus 2mph, so 35 in a 30 and 46 in a 40 are beyond the threshold and likely to result in a 'ticket'... As it has been for years.

FurtiveFreddy

8,577 posts

266 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Om said:
Which all state (where given) the threshold is 10% plus 2mph, so 35 in a 30 and 46 in a 40 are beyond the threshold and likely to result in a 'ticket'... As it has been for years.
OP's lad was done in the Met though which is 10%+3 (or so it says).

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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46.6 rounded up/down is.....

BertBert

21,248 posts

240 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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silverfoxcc said:
Confused .com asked every force in uk what their speed camera thresholds were

These replied saying they used 10% plus 3mph

They don't .My lad go one on the A40 at Northolt for 46.6 ok i know but.......
I think you'll find they replied 10%+2 unless my eyesight has gone. Where do you get the 3 from?

And as we all know so well, this is the speed at which enforcement starts. So in a 40, if you are doing 46 or more then you are likely to get done. I think that 46.6 fits that bill.

Gareth79

9,020 posts

275 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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BertBert said:
silverfoxcc said:
Confused .com asked every force in uk what their speed camera thresholds were

These replied saying they used 10% plus 3mph

They don't .My lad go one on the A40 at Northolt for 46.6 ok i know but.......
I think you'll find they replied 10%+2 unless my eyesight has gone. Where do you get the 3 from?

And as we all know so well, this is the speed at which enforcement starts. So in a 40, if you are doing 46 or more then you are likely to get done. I think that 46.6 fits that bill.
Lancashire 10% + 3 mph
Metropolitan Police / TfL 10% + 3 mph

I'd not heard of any forces using anything other than +2 though, other than a threshold at which they offer SACs though, eg. they might offer one for 46-48mph.

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4,509 posts

149 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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silverfoxcc said:
Confused .com asked every force in uk what their speed camera thresholds were

These replied saying they used 10% plus 3mph

They don't .My lad go one on the A40 at Northolt for 46.6 ok i know but.......
Sorry I have fallen for your clickbait headline.

If you actually read the article you are referring to, you would see that it wasn't Confused.com that asked about speed camera thresholds. They were referring to a survey Auto Express had done.

Derek Smith

49,727 posts

277 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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It's not quite that simple.

The 10 + 2 is a baseline. In my force if you wanted to pursue a matter below that threshold, you needed to produce aggravating factors, such as not optimum visibility, wet surface and high number of accidents/incidents in the area. One which had a lot of traction was houses adjacent to the road, late at night/early morning, and noisy car.

On the other hand, you might want a letter of caution, and all you had to do was produce a mitigating circumstance: no other road users, slowed as soon as he saw the car (so keeping eyes open), safe bit of road.


silverfoxcc

Original Poster:

8,400 posts

174 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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I am not looking compo or even writing to the Daily Mail.Just pointing out that the Met/Tfl say that they use 10% plus 3mph as the start point.

Here for the more myopic out there this is the cut and paste

Metropolitan Police / TfL 10% + 3 mph

Just pointing out what plod say and what plod do are two entirely different things

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4,509 posts

149 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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silverfoxcc said:
I am not looking compo or even writing to the Daily Mail.Just pointing out that the Met/Tfl say that they use 10% plus 3mph as the start point.

Here for the more myopic out there this is the cut and paste

Metropolitan Police / TfL 10% + 3 mph

Just pointing out what plod say and what plod do are two entirely different things

So tell us again how far off the 10% + 3 mph was your lad when he was caught speeding?

Do you get as angry when the pump stops at £30.01 when you only wanted £30?

the tribester

2,927 posts

115 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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I've never seen a speeding ticket to one decimal place. Is that common practice?

the tribester

2,927 posts

115 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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An article in the MyLondon on the subject has this quote;

"Whilst there are guidelines in relation to speed enforcement, the MPS have adopted a proportional response to the high volumes of traffic that moves around London each day to best ensure we are targeting the right drivers," the force said.

You will not get a ticket provided your speed does not exceed the limit by more than 10 per cent, so for example travelling at 35mph or above in a 30mph zone will be recorded as a speeding offence.

Basically, any speeding offence occurs at 1mph above the limit, but forces will allow a variance.''

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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How does he know he got a ticket for 46.6mph? Do NIPs have fractional values on them now?

Sheepshanks

40,970 posts

148 months

Wednesday 21st July 2021
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Gareth79 said:
Lancashire 10% + 3 mph
Metropolitan Police / TfL 10% + 3 mph

I'd not heard of any forces using anything other than +2 though.....
I haventt either - I'd bet they're typos, or the person that answered just got it wrong.