Public parks cordoned off for private funtions
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I watched a Youtube vid the other day where a guy tried to enter a public park that had been cordoned off for a private function of some sort.
His argument was he was entering the park but not the 'fenced area' and so didn't have to pay or buy a ticket. However, the private security denied him access saying they had rented the park area from the council and so he had to pay.
My question is can the council simply rent out areas to private companies and so deny access to taxpayers land?
Sorry if this has been posted before.
His argument was he was entering the park but not the 'fenced area' and so didn't have to pay or buy a ticket. However, the private security denied him access saying they had rented the park area from the council and so he had to pay.
My question is can the council simply rent out areas to private companies and so deny access to taxpayers land?
Sorry if this has been posted before.
In theory it should lower your council tax a little bit.
In theory...
It's quite a common thing though... The Olympics, Edinburgh Comedy Fest, Hyde Park hill etc etc. Plus road closures for parades, bicycle races etc. I wouldn't worry about it unless they made it so frequent it caused problems.
In theory...
It's quite a common thing though... The Olympics, Edinburgh Comedy Fest, Hyde Park hill etc etc. Plus road closures for parades, bicycle races etc. I wouldn't worry about it unless they made it so frequent it caused problems.
Edited by donkmeister on Tuesday 10th August 15:46
vxr8mate said:
I watched a Youtube vid the other day where a guy tried to enter a public park that had been cordoned off for a private function of some sort.
His argument was he was entering the park but not the 'fenced area' and so didn't have to pay or buy a ticket. However, the private security denied him access saying they had rented the park area from the council and so he had to pay.
My question is can the council simply rent out areas to private companies and so deny access to taxpayers land?
Sorry if this has been posted before.
Was it one of the fHis argument was he was entering the park but not the 'fenced area' and so didn't have to pay or buy a ticket. However, the private security denied him access saying they had rented the park area from the council and so he had to pay.
My question is can the council simply rent out areas to private companies and so deny access to taxpayers land?
Sorry if this has been posted before.
knugget youtubers who like to antagonise people and then give them the freeman of the land bks.I know my rights bla bla bla
As a side note what is taxpayers land? Does that mean people who don't pay tax aren't allowed to use it?
There's no such thing as "taxpayer's land". The land is owned by the council, or possibly managed by the council on behalf of some other owner. If you don't like the way the council manages it you can vote for some other councillors who will manage it differently, but you don't get to wander wherever you damn well like on the council's land just because you once paid some tax.
Similarly you can't just walk into the council's offices, make yourself comfy at someone's desk, start using his computer to watch Freeman-on-the-land-type videos on YouTube and help yourself to some free food from the canteen, even if all of these things are in some sense "taxpayer's property".
As above, if the land has been given to the council for the benefit of the public there might be covenants requiring the council to provide public access, but it would depend on the terms of the covenant and how those terms are interpreted. I doubt whether any covenant would require the council to provide unfettered public access 100% of the time. It would obviously be absurd if, for example, they could not close sections of the park for safety reasons while maintenance work was being done, which would be the logical conclusion of "the council can't keep me off taxpayer's land".
Similarly you can't just walk into the council's offices, make yourself comfy at someone's desk, start using his computer to watch Freeman-on-the-land-type videos on YouTube and help yourself to some free food from the canteen, even if all of these things are in some sense "taxpayer's property".
As above, if the land has been given to the council for the benefit of the public there might be covenants requiring the council to provide public access, but it would depend on the terms of the covenant and how those terms are interpreted. I doubt whether any covenant would require the council to provide unfettered public access 100% of the time. It would obviously be absurd if, for example, they could not close sections of the park for safety reasons while maintenance work was being done, which would be the logical conclusion of "the council can't keep me off taxpayer's land".
It depends on the land and often effected by bylaw. Battersea park was closed for E-race but the friends of the park argued that it was not fitting with the bylaw and so was stopped. In that case the park should have been closed for 4 day (setup race and pulldown) but big parts of the park were closed for two weeks.
Some land you can graze your sheep on for free e.t.c.
Some land you can graze your sheep on for free e.t.c.
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