Driving without tax..........
Driving without tax..........
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ToMeToYou

Original Poster:

567 posts

220 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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If the police pull you over with no tax, what would they actually do?

Do they impound the vehicle?

Or do they let you go on your way with a fine ?

Graeme123

157 posts

108 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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No tax = no insurance = car is impounded and driver reported for said offences

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT at your closest MOT station.

Electro1980

9,139 posts

168 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Graeme123 said:
No tax = no insurance = car is impounded and driver reported for said offences

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT at your closest MOT station.
It doesn’t have to be at the closest. There is no stipulation of distance, although I’d advise against pushing it by going much further than a few dozen miles, like some people on here (claim) too do.

giantdefy

700 posts

142 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Graeme123 said:
No tax = no insurance = car is impounded and driver reported for said offences

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT at your closest MOT station.
No tax does not equal no insurance.

ToMeToYou

Original Poster:

567 posts

220 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Graeme123 said:
No tax = no insurance = car is impounded and driver reported for said offences

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT at your closest MOT station.
What does road tax have to do with insurance? I've not read that it invalidates your insurance policy for having an untaxed car. What do car traders do that dont have trade plates but have 4 or 5 cars in stock? tax them all?

Oceanrower

1,357 posts

141 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Graeme123 said:
No tax = no insurance = car is impounded and driver reported for said offences

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT at your closest MOT station.
And once again someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about pops up with a load of complete bks.

Seriously, if you don’t know what you’re talking about, why comment?

cologne2792

2,151 posts

155 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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If no tax did equal no insurance then there would have to be a specific exemption for traveling to an MOT.
As far as I'm aware there isn't one.

May well be outside the terms & conditions of SOME insurance companies though.

Edited by cologne2792 on Monday 6th September 19:14

Oceanrower

1,357 posts

141 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Graeme123 said:
No tax = no insurance = car is impounded and driver reported for said offences

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT at your closest MOT station.
In fact, let’s break that down…

No tax = no insurance - Wrong
= car is impounded - Wrong
and driver reported for said offences - Wrong

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT - Wrong
at your closest MOT station -Wrong

Is this a record?

deckster

9,631 posts

284 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Oceanrower said:
Graeme123 said:
No tax = no insurance = car is impounded and driver reported for said offences

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT at your closest MOT station.
In fact, let’s break that down…

No tax = no insurance - Wrong
= car is impounded - Wrong
and driver reported for said offences - Wrong

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT - Wrong
at your closest MOT station -Wrong

Is this a record?
The punctuation was pretty shonky, too.

ToMeToYou

Original Poster:

567 posts

220 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Oceanrower said:
And once again someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about pops up with a load of complete bks.

Seriously, if you don’t know what you’re talking about, why comment?
Let us know what you think ?

Do the police just report you to DVLA?

Do the police let you go on your way with no road tax after stopping you?

I need to take my £0 road tax car a couple miles away to get some bodywork done. Salvage vehicle, no v5, no documents at all. But it does have a valid and recent MOT looking online. And I do have motor trade insurance, so the car is on the MID database.

Oceanrower

1,357 posts

141 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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ToMeToYou said:
Let us know what you think ?

Do the police just report you to DVLA?

Do the police let you go on your way with no road tax after stopping you?

I need to take my £0 road tax car a couple miles away to get some bodywork done. Salvage vehicle, no v5, no documents at all. But it does have a valid and recent MOT looking online. And I do have motor trade insurance, so the car is on the MID database.
You could, potentially, get a FPN. I seem to remember something like eighty quid.

Realistically, unless you really, REALLY fail the attitude test, I’d be surprised if there was any actions at all.

At the end of the day, it’s insured and MOT’d. And the tax value is zero. The bloke upstream talking about no insurance etc., is just making things up.

CoreyDog

886 posts

119 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Going back a number of years now (About 17) so still had to display tax discs and meaning this is well out of date!

I was parked outside a Police Station and I'd completely forgot to tax the car, genuine mistake and it had expired the previous month.

When I got back I had a notice stuck over my old tax disc from the Police basically saying I had been reported to the DVLA. Renewed the tax that same day and never heard anything more about it.

ddom

6,657 posts

77 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Graeme123 said:
No tax = no insurance = car is impounded and driver reported for said offences

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT at your closest MOT station.
No. And, no.

LosingGrip

8,846 posts

188 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Oceanrower said:
In fact, let’s break that down…

No tax = no insurance - Wrong
= car is impounded - Wrong
and driver reported for said offences - Wrong

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT - Wrong
at your closest MOT station -Wrong

Is this a record?
Car can be seized for no tax. Not all forces do it but we do in certain circumstances.

Off the top of my head it’s after 90 days from when it was last taxed or from day one if it’s SORNd.

Phunk

2,097 posts

200 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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A few years ago I bought a Volvo it came 'taxed', I got my dates mixed up and thought it still had over a month left - turns out the disc only had a few days left.

I got pulled by a traffic cop on the motorway, they gave me a £60 FPN for no tax and that was it.

They did try to pull the 'You have no insurance as you have no tax' - a quick call to my insurance company put that to bed.

944 Man

1,952 posts

161 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Graeme123 said:
No tax = no insurance = car is impounded and driver reported for said offences

I believe the only get around is a pre booked MOT at your closest MOT station.
Please stop repeating this rubbish. This is double rubbish and probably triple rubbish. The first and third points are made-up nonsense and the middle point is probably rubbish.

Griffith4ever

6,872 posts

64 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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If you are insured, the chance of being pulled for no tax is next to nothing, unless you attract attention for something else.

Police anpr is not set to check tax, or they'd be pinging all day.

Aretnap

1,969 posts

180 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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cologne2792 said:
May well be outside the terms & conditions of SOME insurance companies though.
Even if your policy did say that your car had to be taxed (and I've never seen a policy that did say that), your insurance company would only be able to refuse to pay a claim if your lack of tax somehow contributed to the accident. It's not obvious how an accident could be caused by the lack of tax, so for all practical purposes you would still be insured.

LosingGrip

8,846 posts

188 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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Griffith4ever said:
If you are insured, the chance of being pulled for no tax is next to nothing, unless you attract attention for something else.

Police anpr is not set to check tax, or they'd be pinging all day.
Mine is…and often pull cars for it as it gives me a reason to have a chat with them and see what else I can find.

LunarOne

7,314 posts

166 months

Monday 6th September 2021
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My local force posts a lot about motoring. A quick scan of their Facebook page reveals that they seem to dislike no MOT or licence offences far more than road tax, although they do seem to go hand in hand most of the time. The offences, that is, not the local force. However on this occasion, they initially stopped the van for no tax and it seems they seized it for that under Operation Excise. So they clearly do pay attention to no tax, but not all the time.