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Shabaza

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290 posts

126 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Good afternoon all,

I got a call from my uncle who is largely PC illiterate to send a driving license check to insurance.
Upon doing so I told him about his 9 points from June 2019. He was very shocked to learn this is the case and is absolutely sure he hasnt had any correspondence or paid any associated fines. Who do we contact to query what it is and what it is in relation to?


2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,006 posts

264 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Just a starter for ten. Is his address completely correct on his licence?

CharlesElliott

2,264 posts

311 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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3 and 6 points for the same class of offence on the same day!

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,006 posts

264 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Just a starter for ten. Is his address completely correct on his licence?
...and correspond with the check you did? I suppose it must have as you need to enter the post code scratchchin)

Shabaza

Original Poster:

290 posts

126 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Yes driving license and details all correct, he has lived at the same address for the last 20 years.
The car V5 etc all registered to the same address.
Our first thoughts is it must be a glitch/error but before ruling it out we wanted to find out what the offence was in relation to.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,006 posts

264 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Shabaza said:
Yes driving license and details all correct, he has lived at the same address for the last 20 years.
The car V5 etc all registered to the same address.
Our first thoughts is it must be a glitch/error but before ruling it out we wanted to find out what the offence was in relation to.
I guess he'll need to get in touch with the court?

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Shabaza said:
Good afternoon all,

I got a call from my uncle who is largely PC illiterate to send a driving license check to insurance.
Upon doing so I told him about his 9 points from June 2019. He was very shocked to learn this is the case and is absolutely sure he hasnt had any correspondence or paid any associated fines. Who do we contact to query what it is and what it is in relation to?

OP something obviously amiss here, points could have been put on your Uncles licence in error, it does happen occasionally if he has the same or similar name as the culprit. they would have no way of knowing who the driver was at the time of the offence if your uncle had not replied to a NIP, so Quite possibly an admin error.

You need to contact the DVLA, not so easy at the moment though

Or of course your Uncle could be spinning you one

Edit to say I have just noted there is a court address on your image, start there

Edited by martinbiz on Monday 18th October 16:53

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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CharlesElliott said:
3 and 6 points for the same class of offence on the same day!
Yes quite possible

Shabaza

Original Poster:

290 posts

126 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Appreciate the responses gentlemen.
Wanted some direction in regards to who is best to contact, we will contact the court first, then DVLA as last resort.
Have found DVLA largely unhelpful in every dealing Ive had with them in the past

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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AS above, start with the court

speedking31

3,913 posts

165 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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This is the actual gov.uk site isn't it, not some scammy lookalike that follows up with demands for payment of the fines?

https://www.viewdrivingrecord.service.gov.uk/drivi...

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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speedking31 said:
This is the actual gov.uk site isn't it, not some scammy lookalike that follows up with demands for payment of the fines?

https://www.viewdrivingrecord.service.gov.uk/drivi...
That's actually a very good point

OP can you post a link to the check service you used. For a proper full DVLA licence check, apart from the obvious licence number and post code you will also need an NI number

Shabaza

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290 posts

126 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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agtlaw

7,394 posts

235 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Contact the court by email.

https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/cou...

If fines are outstanding then I would expect bailiffs to have been instructed.

Shabaza

Original Poster:

290 posts

126 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Quick update for anyone thats curious. Spoken to the court, they have revealed the convictions are for someone with same surname and DOB but totally different address and first name.
Have to book appt with court to resolve it, what a a faff.
in the meantime, my uncle will have to pay the higher insurance premium related to the points even though it was an admin error elsewhere

Andy OH

1,960 posts

279 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Shabaza said:
Quick update for anyone thats curious. Spoken to the court, they have revealed the convictions are for someone with same surname and DOB but totally different address and first name.
Have to book appt with court to resolve it, what a a faff.
in the meantime, my uncle will have to pay the higher insurance premium related to the points even though it was an admin error elsewhere
OP, what an absolute PITA but at least you got to the bottom of it. Also a complete PITA for your uncle having to pay an inflated premium for someone else's admin error.

Edited by Andy OH on Tuesday 19th October 12:19

Nigel Worc's

8,121 posts

217 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Andy OH said:
OP, what an absolute PITA but at least you got to the bottom of it. Also a complete PITA for your uncle having to pay an inflated premium for someone else's admin error.

Edited by Andy OH on Tuesday 19th October 12:19
I had my NCB removed once (for nine months) after I was accused of being involved in an accident.

Once it was investigated and sorted my NCB was reinstated and I was refunded the extra money it had cost me at insurance renewal time.

I'd imagine it'd be the same in this case.

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Tuesday 19th October 2021
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Shabaza said:
Quick update for anyone thats curious. Spoken to the court, they have revealed the convictions are for someone with same surname and DOB but totally different address and first name.
Have to book appt with court to resolve it, what a a faff.
in the meantime, my uncle will have to pay the higher insurance premium related to the points even though it was an admin error elsewhere
Unfortunately you will have spoken to admin phone bod without a clue of how the process actually works. I would ask to speak to a supervisor who at least may have some knowledge. Your uncle does not have any points, the fact that someone has attached them to his licence in error does not mean he has points even temporarily. I would ask what actually made you contact in them in the first place

Tommo87

5,457 posts

142 months

Wednesday 20th October 2021
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Shabaza said:
Quick update for anyone thats curious. Spoken to the court, they have revealed the convictions are for someone with same surname and DOB but totally different address and first name.
Have to book appt with court to resolve it, what a a faff.
in the meantime, my uncle will have to pay the higher insurance premium related to the points even though it was an admin error elsewhere
I am 99% sure that isn’t the first time that situation has been recounted on PH. (Same name and DOB, but different address).