Health and safety leisure centre reporting?
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I mean leisure in title.
Had horrific experience earlier today were my 6yr son nearly drowned at a leisure centre swimming lesson. Totally there fault, if I hadn't been watching it would of been different story. They have cctv I want to report the incident asap officially, I thought HSE but online looks that's just a work place thing, who can I report it to?
Cheers
Had horrific experience earlier today were my 6yr son nearly drowned at a leisure centre swimming lesson. Totally there fault, if I hadn't been watching it would of been different story. They have cctv I want to report the incident asap officially, I thought HSE but online looks that's just a work place thing, who can I report it to?
Cheers
Edited by PostHeads123 on Tuesday 23 November 19:24
TheRainMaker said:
Maybe start at the Swimming school?
What are we talking about? to many kids in the class? Teacher looking the other way/ on phone/ other?
Spoken to them very apologetic but they blamed the life guard ! They made son swim in adults pool as shallow learner pool faulty, he couldn't touch bottom, I watched him go under twice before I realised they were not watching him by the time I got pool side another swimmer had dragged him out.What are we talking about? to many kids in the class? Teacher looking the other way/ on phone/ other?
Olza23 said:
What is the desired outcome
I think it is to make sure that someone else doesnt end up dead ? obviously there is a break down in the way that they have operated - duty of care etc and the OP wants to get this recorded and something official done about it... wouldnt you ?PostHeads123 said:
TheRainMaker said:
Maybe start at the Swimming school?
What are we talking about? to many kids in the class? Teacher looking the other way/ on phone/ other?
Spoken to them very apologetic but they blamed the life guard ! They made son swim in adults pool as shallow learner pool faulty, he couldn't touch bottomWhat are we talking about? to many kids in the class? Teacher looking the other way/ on phone/ other?
FYI I know every centre has different rules, but when we had lessons in, the lifeguards left poolside, it was down to the teachers to look after the kids.
Olza23 said:
What is the desired outcome
Surely a review with the right people to avoid it happening again? Doesn't have to be a heavy handed investigation but reinforcement of the rules / communication between teachers and lifeguards, etc?If it has got to the point of a child going under for the second time then let's face it something has gone quite fundamentally wrong in a supervised lesson?
The life guard should have gone in as soon as they saw any sign of a swimmer being in trouble. Much to my surprise one went in at a swimming competition I was officiating at recently. The lifeguard was in the pool before the rest of us realised there was an issue.
However it can be an issue with children knowing when they are in trouble and when they are fooling around.
As someone has said the Swim School should have carried out a risk assessment before using the adult pool. I know in our swimming club one of our coaches has had to go in recently as it transpired that the swimmer wasnt as good as they were meant to be! Is obviously important that coaches, teachers and lifeguards are keeping their eyes on everyone in the pool.
If there was an issue I would be reporting it to the pool operator or owner. Was it a local authority pool?
However it can be an issue with children knowing when they are in trouble and when they are fooling around.
As someone has said the Swim School should have carried out a risk assessment before using the adult pool. I know in our swimming club one of our coaches has had to go in recently as it transpired that the swimmer wasnt as good as they were meant to be! Is obviously important that coaches, teachers and lifeguards are keeping their eyes on everyone in the pool.
If there was an issue I would be reporting it to the pool operator or owner. Was it a local authority pool?
Thanks for replies he is very shook up, it was a privately run leisure centre, not sure if they run for the council buts it's a cheap not posh leisure centre so could be on behalf of council need to find out.
Desired outcome is they review there procedures as it was a serious failing. In term of not touching the bottom we knew he couldnt and so did the teacher it was a stage 1 group, I witnessed it happening from the viewing gallery, to get from there pool side is 4-5min sprint, I was hammering the glass to try and get staff attention, couldn't then ran down by time I was poolside he was dragged out and was on the side looked like another adult swimmer seen him, the swimming teacher new first time.
Im furious beyond words, ok people make mistakes things happen I accept that, but today was too close a call they can't just get away with it or it may happen again.
Desired outcome is they review there procedures as it was a serious failing. In term of not touching the bottom we knew he couldnt and so did the teacher it was a stage 1 group, I witnessed it happening from the viewing gallery, to get from there pool side is 4-5min sprint, I was hammering the glass to try and get staff attention, couldn't then ran down by time I was poolside he was dragged out and was on the side looked like another adult swimmer seen him, the swimming teacher new first time.
Im furious beyond words, ok people make mistakes things happen I accept that, but today was too close a call they can't just get away with it or it may happen again.
Edited by PostHeads123 on Wednesday 24th November 09:54
stage 1 is non-swimmers I assume? Where do the children stand when they wait their turn? Ours put big blocks in the water kids stand on, did they not do this?
Are the lessons run by the centre or outsourced to a teacher/swim lessons company?
I'd be furious too. Totally understand your position.
Are the lessons run by the centre or outsourced to a teacher/swim lessons company?
I'd be furious too. Totally understand your position.
Edited by essayer on Wednesday 24th November 10:28
Don't know if it helps, but when a kids lesson is taking place (kids can't touch the floor) where my daughter lifeguards she has to leave her station (chair 
) and stand poolside next to the waiting kids with a rescue pole for the kids to grab in case they let go of the side.
This is in addition to the swim teacher who's focus is often on the kids swimming and not waiting in turn.
) and stand poolside next to the waiting kids with a rescue pole for the kids to grab in case they let go of the side.This is in addition to the swim teacher who's focus is often on the kids swimming and not waiting in turn.
That's awful - I'm glad your kid is OK.
You probably need to straighten your story slightly when condensing it for the complaint, though - in your opening post you say if you hadn't been there it'd be a different story, then later you say by the time you got poolside someone else had already rescued him from the pool.
Good luck; every parent's worst nightmare
You probably need to straighten your story slightly when condensing it for the complaint, though - in your opening post you say if you hadn't been there it'd be a different story, then later you say by the time you got poolside someone else had already rescued him from the pool.
Good luck; every parent's worst nightmare
mattyprice4004 said:
That's awful - I'm glad your kid is OK.
You probably need to straighten your story slightly when condensing it for the complaint, though - in your opening post you say if you hadn't been there it'd be a different story, then later you say by the time you got poolside someone else had already rescued him from the pool.
Good luck; every parent's worst nightmare
Agree completely. I agree also with those suggesting it needs reporting.You probably need to straighten your story slightly when condensing it for the complaint, though - in your opening post you say if you hadn't been there it'd be a different story, then later you say by the time you got poolside someone else had already rescued him from the pool.
Good luck; every parent's worst nightmare
However, deal with it quietly and don't make too much of it with your son as these kind of incidents can put them off the activity. positive reinforcement to overcome any fears it will happen again?
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