DVLA issue
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LukeBrown66

Original Poster:

4,479 posts

75 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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I know they are under the kosh, but this one is weird.

Changed address about 5 months ago, waited a bit to change licence as it was out of date in September.

Sent it all off, then nothing for weeks, tried to apply for a new one, nothing, sent old one back cut up, nothing.

Now I dont exist if I try to apply.

And I get the fatal message transaction completed no licence sent

What on earth am I supposed to do, there is literally no chance to get through to them they dont even keep you on hold it is just ring back or email and they never reply.

seymourski

304 posts

265 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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I have an issue with missing V5's (sent 5 in one envelope in August and only received one back). I used the "Webchat" option yesterday and after talking to a "Bot" initially was put through quickly to an advisor. Hasn't resolved anything yet but felt like a good start. Maybe try this route and see how you get on?

Best of luck.

Cliftonite

8,738 posts

167 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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It won't help you, dear OP, but for other readers, do not send a licence to the DVLA until the new one has been received and found to be in order.

There is generally (always?) an option to say you need the old one for training sessions, or that it has been lost.


Roofless Toothless

7,565 posts

161 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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Do people really send back the cut up halves of their old licences to the DVLA? Is there some poor minion sitting deep in the bowels of the building opening envelopes and tipping out bisected plastic onto a desk, checking each one against a big scroll on which is inscribed the names of all those who have been issued a new licence?

I cut my last one in half, looked at it, and then thought that’s ridiculous. So it stayed there, I think still lurking in my study.

LukeBrown66

Original Poster:

4,479 posts

75 months

Tuesday 30th November 2021
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The licence was expired anyway, and I have pictures of it obviously, I am aware they are struggling, but man alive they NEVER answer the phone or reply to emails

oblio

5,602 posts

256 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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Roofless Toothless said:
Do people really send back the cut up halves of their old licences to the DVLA? Is there some poor minion sitting deep in the bowels of the building opening envelopes and tipping out bisected plastic onto a desk, checking each one against a big scroll on which is inscribed the names of all those who have been issued a new licence?

I cut my last one in half, looked at it, and then thought that’s ridiculous. So it stayed there, I think still lurking in my study.
That's a good question.

I just did my renewal on line and they quote 2 weeks to get the new one through the post.

I ticked the box saying that I would cut the old one up and send it back but I'd like to hear if peeps actually do this? I can't believe that it is someone's job to match up cut up expired licences with the new applications to see who has complied.

Freddie Fitch

190 posts

100 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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My friend says he's done half a dozen changes of address over the last half dozen years and he's never sent any old licences to DVLA cut up or not.
Never any follow up.
He says.

cmvtec

2,188 posts

110 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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oblio said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Do people really send back the cut up halves of their old licences to the DVLA? Is there some poor minion sitting deep in the bowels of the building opening envelopes and tipping out bisected plastic onto a desk, checking each one against a big scroll on which is inscribed the names of all those who have been issued a new licence?

I cut my last one in half, looked at it, and then thought that’s ridiculous. So it stayed there, I think still lurking in my study.
That's a good question.

I just did my renewal on line and they quote 2 weeks to get the new one through the post.

I ticked the box saying that I would cut the old one up and send it back but I'd like to hear if peeps actually do this? I can't believe that it is someone's job to match up cut up expired licences with the new applications to see who has complied.
I know I shouldn't, but I've changed my address many, many times using the online facility and have never cut up and returned my old photocards.

I have a box full of them somewhere.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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Cliftonite said:
It won't help you, dear OP, but for other readers, do not send a licence to the DVLA until the new one has been received and found to be in order.

There is generally (always?) an option to say you need the old one for training sessions, or that it has been lost.
Well don't renew through the post office then, they cut it up in front of you and keep the debris.

LukeBrown66

Original Poster:

4,479 posts

75 months

Wednesday 1st December 2021
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Have heard nothing, it is a bit ridiculous, apparently on their database I do not exist!! Type my licence number in and I am not there, whole thing seems completely to pot sadly.

Steve Dean

94 posts

103 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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When a re-newed licence arrives the letter from the DVLA actually says with typical ambiguity, "Not sure what to do with your old licence? Cut in half then send it to DVLA Swansea SA99 1ZW".
It clearly does not state that you MUST send it back.

More interestingly my partners licence was due to expire at the end of November and she has never received a reminder. As she is under 70, has no medical conditions and holds a current passport, I went on-line and re-newed it for her. The replacement licence arrived within a week!

Q: Do they no longer send out reminders?
Given that most people never look at their licence, I suspect there must a huge amount of people driving with an expired licence.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the DVLA is not fit for purpose. Despite the Chief Executive being given a grilling by MP's it is not getting any better. I am surprised that general and motoring media are not ripping them apart.

MKnight702

3,428 posts

243 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Steve Dean said:
Given that most people never look at their licence, I suspect there must a huge amount of people driving with an expired licence.
It's also worth checking that you have the same entitlements on the replacement licence as the old licence. There are numerous horror stories of people suddenly finding out that the DVLA have deleted things like the motorbike or HGV entitlements, and since the DVLA never make any mistakes ever, you then have to retake the test. This has happened to 20 year HGV drivers and also Police motorcycle riders, unless you can provide the original pass certificate, the DVLA are not interested.

wiliferus

4,214 posts

227 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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LukeBrown66 said:
Have heard nothing, it is a bit ridiculous, apparently on their database I do not exist!! Type my licence number in and I am not there, whole thing seems completely to pot sadly.
When you say database… have you tried the system where you apply for a check code, like when you need one to hire a car or something.

If on that database you do not exist, be very careful driving. Effectively you don’t have a licence, and plod work off that database. You could find yourself getting your car seized etc.
I’m sure at court you would be fine and cleared, but do you really want that stress in your life.

I’d be on the phone to the DVLA morning noon and night until someone picks up. Failing that, I’m sure I read a thread on here that someone got their MP involved and the issue was sorted fairly pronto.

oblio

5,602 posts

256 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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oblio said:
Roofless Toothless said:
Do people really send back the cut up halves of their old licences to the DVLA? Is there some poor minion sitting deep in the bowels of the building opening envelopes and tipping out bisected plastic onto a desk, checking each one against a big scroll on which is inscribed the names of all those who have been issued a new licence?

I cut my last one in half, looked at it, and then thought that’s ridiculous. So it stayed there, I think still lurking in my study.
That's a good question.

I just did my renewal on line and they quote 2 weeks to get the new one through the post.

I ticked the box saying that I would cut the old one up and send it back but I'd like to hear if peeps actually do this? I can't believe that it is someone's job to match up cut up expired licences with the new applications to see who has complied.
I only applied for mine on line yesterday and it arrived in the post today!

Totes amazeballs!

twing

5,793 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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OP, have you checked here?... https://www.gov.uk/view-driving-licence

Waynester

6,522 posts

279 months

Thursday 2nd December 2021
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Definitely wouldn’t send my expired licence back to the DVLA until I received my new one, and it showed the correct full licence(s). I have one of my older licences in my junk drawer.

I have had/having issues with V5Cs… I have bought a few motorbikes in the last 6 months. One bike the new V5C never arrived, I had to apply for a replacement. I bought another bike around 9 weeks ago and still haven’t received the new V5. I can’t declare SORN & the old V5 is the old style with the previous owners name/address on it, so the ref number doesn’t work. So, I’m just waiting..again.

Steve Dean

94 posts

103 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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I'm surprised that no one has answered my question asking if the DVLA send out a reminder when your licence is due to expire.

I've asked around among friends and they have all gone ...... arghhh, I better check the expiry date on mine !!!!




Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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DVLA don't send out renewal notices unless it's a vocational licence.

LukeBrown66

Original Poster:

4,479 posts

75 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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Believe me, unless you are lucky you might be in for a long wait, I have totally disappeared off the DVLA radar and try getting hold of them, beyond useless.

Chris32345

2,141 posts

91 months

Saturday 4th December 2021
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Tyre Smoke said:
DVLA don't send out renewal notices unless it's a vocational licence.
You sure family members have had them when the photo card was due to expire