Speed Letter Advice
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MADT350

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394 posts

232 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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Hello i recieved this in the post for doing 36 in a 30. The road used to be a 40 limit and it looks like they have chnaged it to 30 while over lock down which i had missed as i had not been this road since then, but its been a 40 mph speedlimite for over 20 years.

I'm just a bit confused why i have had this letter rather than a physical fine? why send this letter out when they have all my info etc.

just wondered if someone could offer advice why they do it this way, should i just fill this in and then wait for my punishment? frown




surveyor

18,556 posts

205 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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Yes.

Your fine or more likely course offer will follow. Sounds like the course might be helpful.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

238 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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It's a legal requirement for them to send the NIP & it's a legal requirement for you to fill in the 172 notice.
When the driver has been identified they will consider what action to go with.

TwigtheWonderkid

47,641 posts

171 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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MADT350 said:
I'm just a bit confused why i have had this letter rather than a physical fine? why send this letter out when they have all my info etc.


Because they don't know who was driving until you tell them.

ScoobyChris

2,252 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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MADT350 said:
I'm just a bit confused why i have had this letter rather than a physical fine? why send this letter out when they have all my info etc.
Interestingly, when I received my last NIP (2016 IIRC) the S172 and the offer to accept points/fine if I was the driver were all in the same envelope so it does/did happen. Mine was outside the eligible range for a course though, if that makes a difference.

Chris

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

247 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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If you are offered a course take it.

You may think it will offer nothing but you may be surprised.

You did miss 2 large 30 mph signs smile

zedx19

3,013 posts

161 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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The police want to know who was driving the TVR, so they can high five them for driving a brilliantly outrageous car during insane fuel prices and managing to only be 6mph over the limit at the time.

Pica-Pica

15,810 posts

105 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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As said, they want to identify the driver prior to prosecuting/offering a course.
My last NIP was also for 36 in a 30. That too had been changed from a 40 limit. On the Speed Awareness Course we had to individually note the circumstances of our offence. I had turned at a roundabout from a 40 dual carriageway onto another dual carriageway, that had been 40 too, except it now wasn’t. The instructor came round individually and offered advice on how to avoid the situation. For me the advice was; ‘turning into a new road, assume 30 until you see a sign that says otherwise’. The ‘sign’ I saw was the camera flash. I walked the route and could then see the 30 signs, I was tempted to appeal, as there was a lot of other ‘clutter’ around - pedestrian crossing with lights, and the signs weren’t easily evident - but I took it on the chin, I knew those excuses would not wash.

I found the SAC useful. if only for showing that there are some drivers around with an even greater lack of knowledge.

Edited by Pica-Pica on Wednesday 30th March 10:46

kestral

2,094 posts

228 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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Up until 1988 when a driver received the equivalent of that document to ID the Driver/Rider of a motor vehicle it could just be thrown in the bin.

A summons may then be received and a court appearance resulted in a £50 fine (the maximum) for failure to ID the driver.

The good old RTA 1988 saw that game off all right. irked

agtlaw

7,253 posts

227 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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kestral said:
Up until 1988 when a driver received the equivalent of that document to ID the Driver/Rider of a motor vehicle it could just be thrown in the bin.

A summons may then be received and a court appearance resulted in a £50 fine (the maximum) for failure to ID the driver.

The good old RTA 1988 saw that game off all right. irked
Useful info for anyone with a time machine.

ScoobyChris

2,252 posts

223 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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agtlaw said:
Useful info for anyone with a time machine.
If you had a time machine, you could presumably go back and not get caught so it's still not useful info wink

Chris

ozzuk

1,366 posts

148 months

Wednesday 30th March 2022
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ScoobyChris said:
If you had a time machine, you could presumably go back and not get caught so it's still not useful info wink

Chris
You'd have to be careful getting up to 88..