DVLA Impounded my car while SORN
DVLA Impounded my car while SORN
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therevday

Original Poster:

374 posts

238 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Hi guys looking for a bit of advice. I have today received a letter telling me an agent for the DVLA has imponded my car for no tax. The car is SORN and off road in my local pub car park (with permission from the landlord). It has been there for about two months waiting for a friend of mine to collect on his truck to replace a burst brake pipe. I have two points that I don't understand. Firstly in the letter the location they say they picked the car up from is wrong. It happens to be a road connected to the road where I live. Secondly They say they took the car on the 4th April and I received the letter on the 16th April. They want £21 a day storage and £160 for me to get it back. Surely this is a delay tactic to up the storage costs.What is my best call of action????

HappyMidget

6,794 posts

144 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Has it actually been impounded?

therevday

Original Poster:

374 posts

238 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Yes I noticed yesterday. I'm not getting out much at the moment due to waiting for a complete knee op. I have trouble moving about.

Doofus

34,317 posts

202 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Is the car still at the pub?

Who is the letter from?

Who is the 'agent' of the DVLA?

What does Google tell you about them?

Does it refer to 'tax' or VED?


Chris32345

2,141 posts

91 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Public car park even if privately owned is not classed as off the road I believe same as you can do driving practice or drive without insurance in a car park that's open to the public


Perhaps somebody more familiar with the regs can answer?

syl

693 posts

104 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Insured?

May have been stolen and dumped on the street.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Pub car park is probably where you’ve come a cropper. It seems very harsh, but if the public normally have access to the car park then I believe it’s not treated as private land where a SORN’d car can be left.

therevday

Original Poster:

374 posts

238 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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The car is impounded the letter has DVLA letter head.I double checked and the car is still listed as sorn on the Gov web site. The car is in a pound in Reading belonging to a company called NSL Services

HappyMidget

6,794 posts

144 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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In my limited experience, DVLA only ever clamp for no tax these days, not impounding or moving it. If it has been moved from private land with public access then something fishy is going on imho

leef44

5,184 posts

182 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Was the handbrake secure, did it roll onto the road?

Did some drunk lads do a stunt and moved it for fun?

I would have thought a pub is not public road for SORN purposes. For example, if someone was blocked in at the pub and called the police, they would say it's on private land so it's a civil matter, nothing to do with us.

stemll

5,562 posts

229 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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therevday said:
The car is impounded the letter has DVLA letter head.I double checked and the car is still listed as sorn on the Gov web site. The car is in a pound in Reading belonging to a company called NSL Services
NSL are the DVLA VED "enforcement partner"

https://www.marstonholdings.co.uk/nsl/dvla-vehicle...

Section 7.3 of this https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2008/2266/pdfs...

Appears to say that, provided it was SORN, then they can't clamp or remove from a car park even if the public has access.

legislation.gov.uk said:
EXPLANATORY MEMORANDUM TO THE VEHICLE EXCISE DUTY (IMMOBILISATION, REMOVAL AND DISPOSAL OF VEHICLES) (AMENDMENT) REGULATIONS 2008
2008 No. 2266
7.2 If the current keeper of an unlicensed vehicle is not properly recorded on the DVLA register the only recourse is to clamp or impound the vehicle. The policy intention is to prevent evaders of vehicle excise duty from using off-road areas such as unadopted roads, commons, public car parks or roads maintained by Housing Associations to place themselves beyond the reach of the enforcement authorities.
7.3 As these areas are off the public road it will still be possible to make a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN) instead of licensing. This measure will therefore force those who are not properly registered with DVLA to submit their details either through licensing or making a SORN.
Edited by stemll on Saturday 16th April 19:50


Edited by stemll on Saturday 16th April 19:51

therevday

Original Poster:

374 posts

238 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Why have they lied about the location? The pub is not even on that road.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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HappyMidget said:
In my limited experience, DVLA only ever clamp for no tax these days, not impounding or moving it. If it has been moved from private land with public access then something fishy is going on imho
Did it have Continuous Insurance though if SORN?

LosingGrip

8,844 posts

188 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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HappyMidget said:
In my limited experience, DVLA only ever clamp for no tax these days, not impounding or moving it. If it has been moved from private land with public access then something fishy is going on imho
They do remove.

andrebar

523 posts

151 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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A mate had his SORNed car impounded from a public road & the letters he received did mention lack of VED.

Could it be the DVLA agent knew they weren’t supposed to remove a SORNed car from a private car park & gave a “creative” description of the location.

AlexRS2782

8,511 posts

242 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Another potential option. Pub landlord, regardless of the supposed original agreement to be happy for the vehicle to be left there (probably only temporarily), got fed up of still having the vehicle dumped in the car park 2 months after it first appeared there, having still not been collected because OP's mate hasn't managed to get round to it yet, and decided it was easier to report it / have it removed getmecoat

Has OP actually checked / confirmed that it was definitely removed from the pub car park, and not this other road just round the corner from his own house? By the sounds of it OP hasn't checked on this car since it was first left in the pub?

Or of course this is a typical Easter weekend wind up getmecoat

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Sunday 17th April 00:24

babelfish

1,020 posts

236 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Edited by babelfish on Saturday 16th April 20:58

the tribester

2,924 posts

115 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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Who are the RAC to decide that you cannot keep your own vehicle in your own garden?

Caddyshack

14,757 posts

235 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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babelfish said:


Edited by babelfish on Saturday 16th April 20:58
Garden vs driveway seems a grey area….one for the council thread perhaps?

stemll

5,562 posts

229 months

Saturday 16th April 2022
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The RAC is, not for the first time, wrong. See what I posted above from a government site.

"As these areas are off the public road it will still be possible to make a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN) instead of licensing"

"These areas" include "public car parks".