Needing a legal recommendation please
Needing a legal recommendation please
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SimonD996

Original Poster:

13 posts

146 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Hi,

I have got myself into a problem.... I have 9 points currently, 2XSP30 (Cameras) and a SP50 88MPH on the M25 (Camera). Occurrence dates Dec 2019 and Dec 2020.

I have just been caught by a traffic officer with a speed gun. Their police car wasn't visible as they were parked in a bus lane and it was hidden by the previous car that they had stopped. I hadn't passed any 30MPH signs although I know that the speed limit is 30 MPH. I was stopped about 50 meters from a 50MPH sign in front of me. I was recorded at 39 MPH.

I have just started my own business 6 months ago, it will fail if I loose my licence - it is Motor Trade related. I also need a car to carry out my volunteering work helping those less fortunate.

It seems as if I will be banned for 6 months, and I am thinking about hiring legal representation for an upcoming court appearance.

I am in West Sussex, can anyone recommend a law firm that I should contact please??

Many thanks.

The Rotrex Kid

34,718 posts

189 months

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

92 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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I think of period of reflection while you make use of the UKs excellent public transport system is probably the best advice here

A refresher course on how to drive is also perhaps worth considering if it's been a while since you passed your test

Sebring440

3,201 posts

125 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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SimonD996 said:
Hi,

I have got myself into a problem.... I have 9 points currently, 2XSP30 (Cameras) and a SP50 88MPH on the M25 (Camera). Occurrence dates Dec 2019 and Dec 2020.

I have just been caught by a traffic officer with a speed gun. Their police car wasn't visible as they were parked in a bus lane and it was hidden by the previous car that they had stopped. I hadn't passed any 30MPH signs although I know that the speed limit is 30 MPH. I was stopped about 50 meters from a 50MPH sign in front of me. I was recorded at 39 MPH.

I have just started my own business 6 months ago, it will fail if I loose my licence - it is Motor Trade related. I also need a car to carry out my volunteering work helping those less fortunate.

It seems as if I will be banned for 6 months, and I am thinking about hiring legal representation for an upcoming court appearance.

I am in West Sussex, can anyone recommend a law firm that I should contact please??

Many thanks.
This thread is not going to go the way you hoped...


Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Read this bit of good advice.

Then check out of the thread before the tsunami of sanctimony hits.

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Sounds like you need your first employee to do the business driving.


CarCrazyDad

4,280 posts

64 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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Sebring440 said:
This thread is not going to go the way you hoped...
Maybe use Waze and stop speeding in built up areas or obvious speed camera trap zones (M25).

Lessons not learnt.

frown

LosingGrip

8,844 posts

188 months

Saturday 23rd April 2022
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SimonD996 said:
Hi,

I have got myself into a problem.... I have 9 points currently, 2XSP30 (Cameras) and a SP50 88MPH on the M25 (Camera). Occurrence dates Dec 2019 and Dec 2020.

I have just been caught by a traffic officer with a speed gun. Their police car wasn't visible as they were parked in a bus lane and it was hidden by the previous car that they had stopped. I hadn't passed any 30MPH signs although I know that the speed limit is 30 MPH. I was stopped about 50 meters from a 50MPH sign in front of me. I was recorded at 39 MPH.

I have just started my own business 6 months ago, it will fail if I loose my licence - it is Motor Trade related. I also need a car to carry out my volunteering work helping those less fortunate.

It seems as if I will be banned for 6 months, and I am thinking about hiring legal representation for an upcoming court appearance.

I am in West Sussex, can anyone recommend a law firm that I should contact please??

Many thanks.
Have you completed a driver awareness course within the last three years? If not you should be offered one. Doesn’t matter if you have nine points already.

dibblecorse

7,587 posts

221 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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LosingGrip said:
SimonD996 said:
Hi,

I have got myself into a problem.... I have 9 points currently, 2XSP30 (Cameras) and a SP50 88MPH on the M25 (Camera). Occurrence dates Dec 2019 and Dec 2020.

I have just been caught by a traffic officer with a speed gun. Their police car wasn't visible as they were parked in a bus lane and it was hidden by the previous car that they had stopped. I hadn't passed any 30MPH signs although I know that the speed limit is 30 MPH. I was stopped about 50 meters from a 50MPH sign in front of me. I was recorded at 39 MPH.

I have just started my own business 6 months ago, it will fail if I loose my licence - it is Motor Trade related. I also need a car to carry out my volunteering work helping those less fortunate.

It seems as if I will be banned for 6 months, and I am thinking about hiring legal representation for an upcoming court appearance.

I am in West Sussex, can anyone recommend a law firm that I should contact please??

Many thanks.
Have you completed a driver awareness course within the last three years? If not you should be offered one. Doesn’t matter if you have nine points already.
Not if this offence is with the same regional police force as any of his other 3 offences.

LosingGrip

8,844 posts

188 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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dibblecorse said:
Not if this offence is with the same regional police force as any of his other 3 offences.
Wrong. Doesn’t matter at all.

Only thing that matters is if you’ve done one within the last three years (unless you’ve got caught in Dorset as they don’t do the national one so it doesn’t matter).

https://www.surrey.police.uk/advice/advice-and-inf...

SimonD996

Original Poster:

13 posts

146 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Thank you for all of your replies, particularly the more helpful ones.

I have not been offered a speeding awareness course before, so fingers crossed possibly.

Miserablegit

4,441 posts

138 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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I had understood police wouldn’t conduct a speed check within 100m of a limit change. If true then you will have been further away from the limit change than you estimate.

Those buggers, eh, hiding, catching the innocent motorist- what about your human rights?


Vasco

18,009 posts

134 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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SimonD996 said:
Hi,

I have got myself into a problem.... I have 9 points currently, 2XSP30 (Cameras) and a SP50 88MPH on the M25 (Camera). Occurrence dates Dec 2019 and Dec 2020.

I have just been caught by a traffic officer with a speed gun. Their police car wasn't visible as they were parked in a bus lane and it was hidden by the previous car that they had stopped. I hadn't passed any 30MPH signs although I know that the speed limit is 30 MPH. I was stopped about 50 meters from a 50MPH sign in front of me. I was recorded at 39 MPH.

I have just started my own business 6 months ago, it will fail if I loose my licence - it is Motor Trade related. I also need a car to carry out my volunteering work helping those less fortunate.

It seems as if I will be banned for 6 months, and I am thinking about hiring legal representation for an upcoming court appearance.

I am in West Sussex, can anyone recommend a law firm that I should contact please??

Many thanks.
Amazing that you didn't think that 3 speeding offences might be telling you something. That's apart from the hundreds of occasions when you weren't caught.
No wonder the rest of us despair.

Rozzers

3,052 posts

104 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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If you can avoid a ban, you’re going to need some training.

Speeding is one thing, the lack of awareness and observation in getting caught so often is quite another.

mickyh7

2,347 posts

115 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Waze.

Wackywoo105

490 posts

119 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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12 points isn't an automatic ban if you can give a magistrate good reasons not to ban you. If you intend to plead guilty it's just a case of turning up and putting as much mitigation forward as you can, and possibly hiring or speaking to someone who knows what mitigation magistrates will consider.

Mr Miata

1,220 posts

79 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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If I was on 9 points and needed my license for my job. I would be driving very carefully

mickyh7

2,347 posts

115 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Mr Miata said:
If I was on 9 points and needed my license for my job. I would be driving very carefully
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Red9zero

11,178 posts

86 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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Wackywoo105 said:
12 points isn't an automatic ban if you can give a magistrate good reasons not to ban you. If you intend to plead guilty it's just a case of turning up and putting as much mitigation forward as you can, and possibly hiring or speaking to someone who knows what mitigation magistrates will consider.
Exactly. In my youth I worked for my father doing stupid amounts of miles and went from averaging 6 points at any one time to 12. Best suit, grovelling apologies, letter from my "employer" and a very expensive (company) lawyer and I kept my licence. Lesson definately learnt though.

Steviesam

1,424 posts

163 months

Sunday 24th April 2022
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mickyh7 said:
Waze.
The only time I ever got caught was while using Waze. You cannot rely on it.

OP, I have used AGT Law as recommended above, and he was excellent.