Speeding help for a stupid friend.
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I am trying to help a friend of mine who has got himself in a pickle. He doesn't read very well and is not very organised. He also can't afford a lawyer.
He got a NIP for speeding in May 21. Didn't respond to the NIP or reminder. He then got a summons, which he didn't need to attend. They have not changed this to a full court hearing which is next week because they are considering disqual. (I thought they had dropped the speeding and were now doing him for section 172, but that's not the case)
The problem is that he can't recall what he sent or what paperwork he received, so it's hard to help him. I got him to phone the court, who said he can request the paperwork on the day, but clearly that's not ideal. Is there anyway that we can get hold of any information that I can use to establish how this has ended up becoming a full court hearing?
He got a NIP for speeding in May 21. Didn't respond to the NIP or reminder. He then got a summons, which he didn't need to attend. They have not changed this to a full court hearing which is next week because they are considering disqual. (I thought they had dropped the speeding and were now doing him for section 172, but that's not the case)
The problem is that he can't recall what he sent or what paperwork he received, so it's hard to help him. I got him to phone the court, who said he can request the paperwork on the day, but clearly that's not ideal. Is there anyway that we can get hold of any information that I can use to establish how this has ended up becoming a full court hearing?
cashmax said:
Canon_Fodder said:
OP presume, "they have now" not "...not" in your 2nd para?
Yes, it was a typo. I have just established that he did fill in the reminder NIP and send it in, but I'm guessing it was too late, which is why they are not going down the section 172 route.Impossible to know what to advise without knowing what he has said and when.
It sounds like he has maybe admitted to speeding, for the S172 to have been dropped. It would be the other way around had he continued his ill advised tactic of sticking his head in the sand. If they had received the reminder NIP acknowledgement too late, or not at all, they would be charging him with S172 Failure to Furnish rather than speeding (or possibly both, as an final roll of the dice on the day to trade the worst S172 charge for the lesser one).
If they're considering disqualification then presumably he either can't accept a FPN because he's looking at a totting up ban, or the recorded speed vs limit is so egregious that they're considering a straight ban anyway.
Surely at the very minimum you've been told what speed he was alleged to have been doing, or how many points he already has? That will probably tell you why its going to court.
It sounds like he has maybe admitted to speeding, for the S172 to have been dropped. It would be the other way around had he continued his ill advised tactic of sticking his head in the sand. If they had received the reminder NIP acknowledgement too late, or not at all, they would be charging him with S172 Failure to Furnish rather than speeding (or possibly both, as an final roll of the dice on the day to trade the worst S172 charge for the lesser one).
If they're considering disqualification then presumably he either can't accept a FPN because he's looking at a totting up ban, or the recorded speed vs limit is so egregious that they're considering a straight ban anyway.
Surely at the very minimum you've been told what speed he was alleged to have been doing, or how many points he already has? That will probably tell you why its going to court.
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