Lease Van Huge Delay, Refund on Broker Fee?
Lease Van Huge Delay, Refund on Broker Fee?
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lost in espace

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6,586 posts

236 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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I booked a VW Transporter from one of the big leasing co's in November 2021, £200 a month all in 5k a year, cracking deal. Unfortunately the looms were made in Ukraine, they are now shifting production to Egypt.

The broker emails me every month apologising for the delay, and advising they have no idea when a build date will be given. This morning's email actually said the lady at the broker was slowly going grey because of these delays. Realistically mid 2023 will probably be the earliest for delivery.

The broker says I can withdraw, but I lose the £200 booking fee. It is hardly my fault they cannot supply the goods within any kind of realistic timeframe, and they have now sent me an FCA for to complain.

Is it worth pursuing the money through the FCA or a waste of time? I went out and bought a second hand Transporter in the end.

No ideas for a name

3,189 posts

115 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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If you can't get your £200 back, is there a way of keeping your slot and then effectively selling that on closer to delivery time?

gazza285

11,125 posts

237 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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It could be worse, I've just received a Vivaro, as these are available now. Roll on July 1st 2025...

Canon_Fodder

1,775 posts

92 months

Tuesday 5th July 2022
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lost in espace said:
The broker says I can withdraw, but I lose the £200 booking fee. It is hardly my fault they cannot supply the goods within any kind of realistic timeframe, and they have now sent me an FCA for to complain.
Not their fault either... But they have taken £200 for nothing so please have a go through the FCA as we (I) would be interested in hearing the outcome

Pinkie15

1,248 posts

109 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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Might this not come under 'frustration of contract'.

There was a thread about it in this sub-forum when covid kicked off, but the PH search function /my Google fu are defeating me in finding it.

megaphone

11,641 posts

280 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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The rates for leasing/contract hire have have go up a lot, you may not be able to get the same deal on anything else. Might be worth hanging in there and run something else in the mean time.

My work colleague waited for 13 months for a Citroen, the lease co where actually trying to talk him out of it as they did not want to honour the really cheap deal he got during lockdown, he said no and just waited.

shelly10

22 posts

84 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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lost in espace said:
I booked a VW Transporter from one of the big leasing co's in November 2021, £200 a month all in 5k a year, cracking deal. Unfortunately the looms were made in Ukraine, they are now shifting production to Egypt.

The broker emails me every month apologising for the delay, and advising they have no idea when a build date will be given. This morning's email actually said the lady at the broker was slowly going grey because of these delays. Realistically mid 2023 will probably be the earliest for delivery.

The broker says I can withdraw, but I lose the £200 booking fee. It is hardly my fault they cannot supply the goods within any kind of realistic timeframe, and they have now sent me an FCA for to complain.

Is it worth pursuing the money through the FCA or a waste of time? I went out and bought a second hand Transporter in the end.
Thank you for posting this on the forums. We also ordered a vehicle last year, possibly from the same lease company (would be interested to know who this is if you are able to PM, as appreciate this cant be posted in the open forum).

Our updates have been less frequent and only when prompted by email. We ordered prior to yours and only this month have been told it has shifted, up until then it was all fine for July, apparently! I had been hopeful as following VW camper forums they were starting to come through in 8 or 9 months.

Whilst we are mindful of the constraints on the suppliers there must be a cutoff point where they are deemed not to be able to supply. We have not tried asking for fee back yet as I am more bothered about actually getting a date than when it is, but for some reason they don't see not knowing if you are going to have something to drive as a problem or not!

lost in espace

Original Poster:

6,586 posts

236 months

Wednesday 6th July 2022
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shelly10 said:
Thank you for posting this on the forums. We also ordered a vehicle last year, possibly from the same lease company (would be interested to know who this is if you are able to PM, as appreciate this cant be posted in the open forum).

Our updates have been less frequent and only when prompted by email. We ordered prior to yours and only this month have been told it has shifted, up until then it was all fine for July, apparently! I had been hopeful as following VW camper forums they were starting to come through in 8 or 9 months.

Whilst we are mindful of the constraints on the suppliers there must be a cutoff point where they are deemed not to be able to supply. We have not tried asking for fee back yet as I am more bothered about actually getting a date than when it is, but for some reason they don't see not knowing if you are going to have something to drive as a problem or not!
Hi Shelly10, I can't seem to email you as it says you don't accept them. If you email cjstephenson at gmail dot com I will email back.

shelly10

22 posts

84 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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lost in espace said:
Hi Shelly10, I can't seem to email you as it says you don't accept them.
Hi Lost in espace, thank you for the rely. I have updated my forum preferences now to allow messages (wasn't aware I hadn't selected that).

Key fact I missed from the previous message is that we have now been given an estimate of Q4 2022.

vikingaero

13,222 posts

198 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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It seems strange that the broker would direct you to the FCA so quickly. You normally make a complaint, end up in deadlock etc which can take 8 weeks.

I imagine the broker would not be a subscription member of the FCA and would have to pay fees. Normally the first 3 cases for a company are free and subsequent cases are £750 each. So either they've not had 3 cases are don't care or they are willing to gamble £750 vs. £200 refund.