38 in 30 first offence - is it speed awareness
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anyone else notice how disproportionally less you can speed in the higher bands?
in a 30 zone, you get a summons for doing 50, which is 66% over the speed limit.
yet on a motorway, you get a summons for doing 96, which is only 37% over the speed limit, and obviously, motorways are far, far safer per passenger mile travelled than urban roads. if you had the same leeway of 66%, then you wouldnt get a summons until 117mph, which, lets be honest, most modern cars can do perfectly safely...
in a 30 zone, you get a summons for doing 50, which is 66% over the speed limit.
yet on a motorway, you get a summons for doing 96, which is only 37% over the speed limit, and obviously, motorways are far, far safer per passenger mile travelled than urban roads. if you had the same leeway of 66%, then you wouldnt get a summons until 117mph, which, lets be honest, most modern cars can do perfectly safely...
rlengthorn said:
Mammasaid said:
If you have any documentary of the unicorn of speeding conviction of less than 35mph PH would like to see it as no one has ever been able to provide such.
brillomaster said:
anyone else notice how disproportionally less you can speed in the higher bands?
in a 30 zone, you get a summons for doing 50, which is 66% over the speed limit.
yet on a motorway, you get a summons for doing 96, which is only 37% over the speed limit, and obviously, motorways are far, far safer per passenger mile travelled than urban roads. if you had the same leeway of 66%, then you wouldnt get a summons until 117mph, which, lets be honest, most modern cars can do perfectly safely...
Depends how you phrase it. It's 26mph more vs 20mph more, so you get more leeway in an absolute sense.in a 30 zone, you get a summons for doing 50, which is 66% over the speed limit.
yet on a motorway, you get a summons for doing 96, which is only 37% over the speed limit, and obviously, motorways are far, far safer per passenger mile travelled than urban roads. if you had the same leeway of 66%, then you wouldnt get a summons until 117mph, which, lets be honest, most modern cars can do perfectly safely...
Would you trust many of our drivers doing 117mph, though? Not sure I trust some of them doing 70...
TonyF1 said:
ingenieur said:
brillomaster said:
you wouldnt get a summons until 117mph, which, lets be honest, most modern cars can do perfectly safely...
...because 10s of thousands of Germans do that every day! Blib said:
I know someone who 'merely' received 3 points after being caught by a police officer with a speed gun doing 68 in a 30.
The cop pulled him over at the time.
I know this is true because I witnessed it.
What were they actually done for, though? It sounds to me it was more ‘driving without due care’, because the speed could not be quantified by a suitable device.The cop pulled him over at the time.
I know this is true because I witnessed it.
Pica-Pica said:
Blib said:
I know someone who 'merely' received 3 points after being caught by a police officer with a speed gun doing 68 in a 30.
The cop pulled him over at the time.
I know this is true because I witnessed it.
What were they actually done for, though? It sounds to me it was more ‘driving without due care’, because the speed could not be quantified by a suitable device.The cop pulled him over at the time.
I know this is true because I witnessed it.
There were extenuating circumstances. The section of road was straight for about a mile and lined exclusively, either side by garden centres.
The chap was pulled at about 7:30pm on a sunny Sunday summer evening. All of the garden centres were closed at that time.
The cop pulled him over into the car park of the garden centre where he'd been stationed with his radar gun and the driver immediately admitted he'd been a fool and apologised.
The discussion soon turned to the driver's car and by the end of the chat and to the driver's great surprise, the policeman told him he'd just give him a sp30, then sent him on his way.
giantdefy said:
rlengthorn said:
Mammasaid said:
If you have any documentary of the unicorn of speeding conviction of less than 35mph PH would like to see it as no one has ever been able to provide such.
NGee said:
rlengthorn said:
What really annoys me about that, was that I got caught by a camera doing 34mph in a 30 zone, which is fast enough to get three points and a fine, but not fast enough to attend a speed awareness course instead!
No you didn't.Why would I take the points and a fine if I could have attended a Speed Awareness Course online at a cost less than the fine?
Edited by Andy665 on Friday 22 July 15:40
Edited by Andy665 on Friday 22 July 15:41
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