Community speed watch vs my dashcam footage
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Received one of these ‘letters’ alleging I was contravening a 30 limit. Oddly enough I recall driving past them under the limit and also saved the dashcam footage at the time which clearly shows the gps speed also being under the limit. I can only conclude the retired gentlemen were insufficiently trained or made a mistake when reading their equipment and have now made an erroneous accusation concerning my speed to the police.
I fully intend on taking this further since the dashcam footage is pretty clear and their false allegations effectively amount to defamation. How best to proceed… over to PH.
Any brakeists can f
k off of course… 
I fully intend on taking this further since the dashcam footage is pretty clear and their false allegations effectively amount to defamation. How best to proceed… over to PH.
Any brakeists can f
k off of course… john41901 said:
Received one of these ‘letters’ alleging I was contravening a 30 limit. Oddly enough I recall driving past them under the limit and also saved the dashcam footage at the time which clearly shows the gps speed also being under the limit. I can only conclude the retired gentlemen were insufficiently trained or made a mistake when reading their equipment and have now made an erroneous accusation concerning my speed to the police.
I fully intend on taking this further since the dashcam footage is pretty clear and their false allegations effectively amount to defamation. How best to proceed… over to PH.
Any brakeists can fk off of course…
How much difference between the speed they allege & your dashcam reading?I fully intend on taking this further since the dashcam footage is pretty clear and their false allegations effectively amount to defamation. How best to proceed… over to PH.
Any brakeists can f
k off of course… john41901 said:
Received one of these ‘letters’ alleging I was contravening a 30 limit. Oddly enough I recall driving past them under the limit and also saved the dashcam footage at the time which clearly shows the gps speed also being under the limit. I can only conclude the retired gentlemen were insufficiently trained or made a mistake when reading their equipment and have now made an erroneous accusation concerning my speed to the police.
I fully intend on taking this further since the dashcam footage is pretty clear and their false allegations effectively amount to defamation. How best to proceed… over to PH.
Any brakeists can fk off of course…
Crumple letter.I fully intend on taking this further since the dashcam footage is pretty clear and their false allegations effectively amount to defamation. How best to proceed… over to PH.
Any brakeists can f
k off of course… Take aim at bin.
Throw.
Repeat as necessary.
Dear xxx
Speedwatch scheme
Vehicle - xxx reg xxx
The speedwatch scheme is a police neighbourhood scheme working with the xxx council and residents of xxx to reduce speeding through our neighbourhood.
On Thursday xxx at xx:xx a vehicle registered in your name registration xxx was seen being driven on xx road, xxx. The speed indication on the device was noted as above the 30 mph limit.
Details of this incident have been noted by xxx police and should your vehicle be detected speeding again in this or any other speedwatch area details will be passed to the roads policing department who may contact you further.
Yours sincerely
Speedwatch coordinator on behalf of xxx police
Xxx council
Email: speedwatch@…
Speedwatch scheme
Vehicle - xxx reg xxx
The speedwatch scheme is a police neighbourhood scheme working with the xxx council and residents of xxx to reduce speeding through our neighbourhood.
On Thursday xxx at xx:xx a vehicle registered in your name registration xxx was seen being driven on xx road, xxx. The speed indication on the device was noted as above the 30 mph limit.
Details of this incident have been noted by xxx police and should your vehicle be detected speeding again in this or any other speedwatch area details will be passed to the roads policing department who may contact you further.
Yours sincerely
Speedwatch coordinator on behalf of xxx police
Xxx council
Email: speedwatch@…
Surely the answer, assuming you have time on your hands to do so, is to contact the email address provided in the letter.
Otherwise if you don’t have the time on your hands retain the footage so if you are seen again, legitimately or not, and the police get more involved you can prove the first incident was an error.
Otherwise if you don’t have the time on your hands retain the footage so if you are seen again, legitimately or not, and the police get more involved you can prove the first incident was an error.
get those people around here,,,anything that looks or sounds fast gets a letter , their old mate that drives past p1ssed up gets ignored
if i get get caught fair n square by a police officer then i will take it on the chin ,i dont agree with a bunch of village idiots deciding whos right or wrong
if i get get caught fair n square by a police officer then i will take it on the chin ,i dont agree with a bunch of village idiots deciding whos right or wrong
Was this Suffolk Police???
A few of us got a similar worded letter when on a PHEA run a couple of years back - allegedly the member of the public was in fear for her life for the speed and manner of driving - the rule on PHEA runs is 30 in a 30, 40 in a 40 and 50 in a 50 - for the NSL reasonable progress can be made. Anyway threats of further action if we came to note again were made in the letter.
The strange thing was only one incident stuck in my mind a woman with a kid in a buggy was taking pictures of the cars going through a town centre when a few of us drove through it.
I opened up a letter conversation with the officer that wrote the letter and in response he said we were identified by photos so that confirmed it for me - All four cars were in same group.
The officer who penned the letter got a polite reply with a copy of the relevant data I was logging at the time which showed my speed as under 30 mph - never heard anymore.
I’m note sure I’d bother responding to another as they just seem to be a tick box exercise for any “complaint” raised by any member of public who gets the hump about a few cars going through their town or village.
A few of us got a similar worded letter when on a PHEA run a couple of years back - allegedly the member of the public was in fear for her life for the speed and manner of driving - the rule on PHEA runs is 30 in a 30, 40 in a 40 and 50 in a 50 - for the NSL reasonable progress can be made. Anyway threats of further action if we came to note again were made in the letter.
The strange thing was only one incident stuck in my mind a woman with a kid in a buggy was taking pictures of the cars going through a town centre when a few of us drove through it.
I opened up a letter conversation with the officer that wrote the letter and in response he said we were identified by photos so that confirmed it for me - All four cars were in same group.
The officer who penned the letter got a polite reply with a copy of the relevant data I was logging at the time which showed my speed as under 30 mph - never heard anymore.
I’m note sure I’d bother responding to another as they just seem to be a tick box exercise for any “complaint” raised by any member of public who gets the hump about a few cars going through their town or village.
A few years ago I passed a similar speed watch setup, I was travelling around 28mph (speedo reading) in a 30 limit and so thought nothing of it.
A week or so later I received 2 letters from the Police, both alleging that I was speeding - the 2 letters were identical apart from the incidents being a few minutes apart.
I only passed though the village once and not exceeding the limit, can only assume that the 'mature' speed gun operator + assistant were having senior moments?
Annoyed me at the time, especially because whoever writes these letters should at least use their brain and realise that, regardless of whether I was speeding or not, it would have been virtually impossible that I could have done it twice as per the letters. I thought about complaining to the Police but decided that nothing good would have come of it and, AFAIK these letters have no legal standing so I just binned the letters.
Also, given the way they stand there glaring at you with a speed gun I can easily see how this sort of thing could get out of hand and would be surprised if there hadn't been altercations over it somewhere?
Policing should really be left to the Police,
A week or so later I received 2 letters from the Police, both alleging that I was speeding - the 2 letters were identical apart from the incidents being a few minutes apart.
I only passed though the village once and not exceeding the limit, can only assume that the 'mature' speed gun operator + assistant were having senior moments?
Annoyed me at the time, especially because whoever writes these letters should at least use their brain and realise that, regardless of whether I was speeding or not, it would have been virtually impossible that I could have done it twice as per the letters. I thought about complaining to the Police but decided that nothing good would have come of it and, AFAIK these letters have no legal standing so I just binned the letters.
Also, given the way they stand there glaring at you with a speed gun I can easily see how this sort of thing could get out of hand and would be surprised if there hadn't been altercations over it somewhere?
Policing should really be left to the Police,
The adult and probably more sensible course of action would be to bin the letter.
The childish, but more amusing course of action would be to write a pompous letter to the police officer mentioned on the letter explaining that you have proof of innocence and demanding an apology and an assurance that the Speedwatch volunteers concerned are retrained.
The childish, but more amusing course of action would be to write a pompous letter to the police officer mentioned on the letter explaining that you have proof of innocence and demanding an apology and an assurance that the Speedwatch volunteers concerned are retrained.
Several years ago I briefly looked into how speed guns work. IIRC there was something called ‘slip’, whereby if the gun isn’t held steadily enough the reading could be taken from different parts of the vehicle during the measurement, thus giving an inaccurate reading. Not sure if I’ve remembered this correctly or not, perhaps Vonhosen could advise?
Evanivitch said:
john41901 said:
I fully intend on taking this further since the dashcam footage is pretty clear and their false allegations effectively amount to defamation. How best to proceed… over to PH.
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