Insurance - if my wife passes her driving test
Insurance - if my wife passes her driving test
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lobster940

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666 posts

184 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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My wife is shortly going to be taking her driving test in her own car. I'm accompanying her from home to the test centre as her supervisor. The car is currently insured with my wife (a provisional licence holder) as the policyholder. I am a named driver (full licence, and have my own fully comp policy on a second car).

I am assuming, if she passes her test, she will not be insured to drive the car home, as she will be a qualified driver.

Will I be insured - given that I'm a named driver, with no valid policyholder? Or will we need to re-insure the car at the test centre before we go home?

Mandat

4,616 posts

267 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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lobster940 said:
My wife is shortly going to be taking her driving test in her own car. I'm accompanying her from home to the test centre as her supervisor. The car is currently insured with my wife (a provisional licence holder) as the policyholder. I am a named driver (full licence, and have my own fully comp policy on a second car).

I am assuming, if she passes her test, she will not be insured to drive the car home, as she will be a qualified driver.

Will I be insured - given that I'm a named driver, with no valid policyholder? Or will we need to re-insure the car at the test centre before we go home?
I think that you are over thinking this.

I'd advise that you speak with the insurer, as they are the only ones who can tell you what their view on this will be.

carl_w

10,734 posts

287 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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lobster940 said:
My wife is shortly going to be taking her driving test in her own car. I'm accompanying her from home to the test centre as her supervisor. The car is currently insured with my wife (a provisional licence holder) as the policyholder. I am a named driver (full licence, and have my own fully comp policy on a second car).

I am assuming, if she passes her test, she will not be insured to drive the car home, as she will be a qualified driver.

Will I be insured - given that I'm a named driver, with no valid policyholder? Or will we need to re-insure the car at the test centre before we go home?
It's a long time since I passed my test but the instructor would always drive back from the tests, I presume for this exact reason.

outnumbered

4,868 posts

263 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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lobster940 said:
My wife is shortly going to be taking her driving test in her own car. I'm accompanying her from home to the test centre as her supervisor. The car is currently insured with my wife (a provisional licence holder) as the policyholder. I am a named driver (full licence, and have my own fully comp policy on a second car).

I am assuming, if she passes her test, she will not be insured to drive the car home, as she will be a qualified driver.

Will I be insured - given that I'm a named driver, with no valid policyholder? Or will we need to re-insure the car at the test centre before we go home?
If she's on "learner insurance", she can't drive home, but you can as a named driver. At least this is what happened when my kids learnt to drive (Collingwood insurance).

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

251 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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carl_w said:
It's a long time since I passed my test but the instructor would always drive back from the tests, I presume for this exact reason.
Tests you say. wink

RazerSauber

2,894 posts

89 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Louis Balfour said:
carl_w said:
It's a long time since I passed my test but the instructor would always drive back from the tests, I presume for this exact reason.
Tests you say. wink
Would it be unusual for a driving instructor to multiple students home from multiple tests?

OP: Given that insurers are notoriously picky and your wife is likely to be either super happy at passing or upset she hasn't, it's probably best you take the wheel. There's no excuse for the insurer to kick up a fuss if anything happens and less chance of an accident while she regales you with her story about what happened on the test. Best of luck to her, too.

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

251 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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RazerSauber said:
Louis Balfour said:
carl_w said:
It's a long time since I passed my test but the instructor would always drive back from the tests, I presume for this exact reason.
Tests you say. wink
Would it be unusual for a driving instructor to multiple students home from multiple tests?

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I am sure that is what he meant, but I read it initially that he had failed on multiple occasions.

carl_w

10,734 posts

287 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Louis Balfour said:
Tests you say. wink
Yes, as a driving instructor he drove back from multiple tests. I only witnessed it once though.

Yellow Lizud

2,923 posts

193 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Louis Balfour said:
carl_w said:
It's a long time since I passed my test but the instructor would always drive back from the tests, I presume for this exact reason.
Tests you say. wink
Yes,tests. The instructor would have taken loads of pupils to loads of tests and then driven back from the tests. (I can see what you are implying - but you might not be right!)
However this had nothing to do with insurance, especially since most pupils would be using the instructors car, which was obviously insured anyway.

The reason was that if the pupil had just passed their test they would be on cloud 9 messaging all their mates on social media and it would be some time before they came down off that high. Of course if they failed they would be distraught, extremely depressed, trying to work out whose fault it was blaming the instructor, the examiner and every one else on the road.
Neither of these conditions make for good driving, hence why the instructor drove back after the test.

dundarach

6,211 posts

257 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Ring insurance explain situation.

When she passes, explain she can drive you to the pub for a celebratory pint.

She'll feel amazing, you'll get beers and a taxi home, sounds like a lovely evening.


surveyor

18,689 posts

213 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Yellow Lizud said:
Louis Balfour said:
carl_w said:
It's a long time since I passed my test but the instructor would always drive back from the tests, I presume for this exact reason.
Tests you say. wink
Yes,tests. The instructor would have taken loads of pupils to loads of tests and then driven back from the tests. (I can see what you are implying - but you might not be right!)
However this had nothing to do with insurance, especially since most pupils would be using the instructors car, which was obviously insured anyway.

The reason was that if the pupil had just passed their test they would be on cloud 9 messaging all their mates on social media and it would be some time before they came down off that high. Of course if they failed they would be distraught, extremely depressed, trying to work out whose fault it was blaming the instructor, the examiner and every one else on the road.
Neither of these conditions make for good driving, hence why the instructor drove back after the test.
That was a thing even over 30 years ago...

OutInTheShed

14,407 posts

55 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Read the small print or ask the insurer.
It must surely be in the FAQs? or Key Features blurb?

Surely one should look into this before taking out a year's policy expecting the details to change in a few months?

Other people's policies may be worded differently.

Louis Balfour

28,176 posts

251 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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surveyor said:
Yellow Lizud said:
Louis Balfour said:
carl_w said:
It's a long time since I passed my test but the instructor would always drive back from the tests, I presume for this exact reason.
Tests you say. wink
Yes,tests. The instructor would have taken loads of pupils to loads of tests and then driven back from the tests. (I can see what you are implying - but you might not be right!)
However this had nothing to do with insurance, especially since most pupils would be using the instructors car, which was obviously insured anyway.

The reason was that if the pupil had just passed their test they would be on cloud 9 messaging all their mates on social media and it would be some time before they came down off that high. Of course if they failed they would be distraught, extremely depressed, trying to work out whose fault it was blaming the instructor, the examiner and every one else on the road.
Neither of these conditions make for good driving, hence why the instructor drove back after the test.
That was a thing even over 30 years ago...
A friend broke two limbs and wrote off his bike on the way back from his test, because he suddenly felt invincible.



Gareth79

9,010 posts

275 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Yellow Lizud said:
Louis Balfour said:
carl_w said:
It's a long time since I passed my test but the instructor would always drive back from the tests, I presume for this exact reason.
Tests you say. wink
Yes,tests. The instructor would have taken loads of pupils to loads of tests and then driven back from the tests. (I can see what you are implying - but you might not be right!)
However this had nothing to do with insurance, especially since most pupils would be using the instructors car, which was obviously insured anyway.

The reason was that if the pupil had just passed their test they would be on cloud 9 messaging all their mates on social media and it would be some time before they came down off that high. Of course if they failed they would be distraught, extremely depressed, trying to work out whose fault it was blaming the instructor, the examiner and every one else on the road.
Neither of these conditions make for good driving, hence why the instructor drove back after the test.
Yes, also you can imagine that driving instructors would nearly always be insured for anybody to drive since they will often teach people with full licences - for example people who haven't driven for a while, doing "Pass Plus" etc.


alscar

9,642 posts

242 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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If your wife passes her test and drives you home but you are in the car then don’t see the issue anyway.
When you get home then phone the Insurer to inform them of the good news and they will then relieve you of some more money to allow your wife to drive unaccompanied.
You of course could phone them at the driving centre but that’s seems a little unnecessary.

Paulsd

382 posts

123 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Both my sons passed their tests in their own car (~3 years and ~2 years ago respectively) with me as the supervisor on the way to the test. They had their own policies for the car with me as named driver.

Upon passing, the examiner made it very clear that they can't drive home and that I needed to do that. I think the excitement reason was valid but more importantly, their licence status had now changed and wouldn't be insured.

I suppose you could call the insurer from the test centre and update them so she could then drive home.

We didn't do that as we wanted to then search around for black box policies to transfer to which is what we did.

Even if you weren't covered in this instance, you could always rely on DOC, assuming you've checked your policy that it covers you.

wazztie16

1,679 posts

160 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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Yellow Lizud said:
Yes,tests. The instructor would have taken loads of pupils to loads of tests and then driven back from the tests. (I can see what you are implying - but you might not be right!)
However this had nothing to do with insurance, especially since most pupils would be using the instructors car, which was obviously insured anyway.

The reason was that if the pupil had just passed their test they would be on cloud 9 messaging all their mates on social media and it would be some time before they came down off that high. Of course if they failed they would be distraught, extremely depressed, trying to work out whose fault it was blaming the instructor, the examiner and every one else on the road.
Neither of these conditions make for good driving, hence why the instructor drove back after the test.
When I passed in 2009, the instructor drove me back. I asked why I couldn't drive and he said I wasn't insured as I wasn't a learner anymore. Made sense to me, only learners or instructors to drive the learner car.

I think the "mood" thing is a load of bullocks, personally.

Yellow Lizud

2,923 posts

193 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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wazztie16 said:
When I passed in 2009, the instructor drove me back. I asked why I couldn't drive and he said I wasn't insured as I wasn't a learner anymore. Made sense to me, only learners or instructors to drive the learner car.

I think the "mood" thing is a load of bullocks, personally.
Assuming you were driving the instructors car, then you (or the instructor) are talking bks. Loads of older people or nervous drivers have 'topup' lessons and loads of younger people do the Pass Plus, all on a full licence.

You are welcome to 'think the "mood" thing is a load of bullocks', but you are wrong.

carl_w

10,734 posts

287 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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wazztie16 said:
When I passed in 2009, the instructor drove me back. I asked why I couldn't drive and he said I wasn't insured as I wasn't a learner anymore. Made sense to me, only learners or instructors to drive the learner car.
This was what I was told a lot earlier than 2009.

Maybe it's part of the secret driving instructors code that they learn in training.

ayeaye

46 posts

185 months

Monday 26th September 2022
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wazztie16 said:
When I passed in 2009, the instructor drove me back. I asked why I couldn't drive and he said I wasn't insured as I wasn't a learner anymore. Made sense to me, only learners or instructors to drive the learner car.

I think the "mood" thing is a load of bullocks, personally.
You think instructors can only teach learners? Pupil would be insured as it would be a lesson post test. It’s 100% the mood after test that I don’t let majority drive home afterwards.