I am sure it was 50mph??
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Have just received a Notice of Intended Prosecution after a dreaded double flash from a gantry camera on the M4 (Speed reductions were in place due to a lane closure further along the motorway) I passed under the camera at 48mph. The notice states the limit was 40mph. However I and particularly my wife, are normally very 'alert' to such warnings and I purposely slowed down on sight of the gantry from 70mph to 48mph as we are both sure the limit displayed overhead on was 50mph? Admittedly subsequent gantry's as we got closer to the lane closure were displaying 40mph.
Is it possible that the display was out of sync with the camera? Does this ever happen and if so is it worth mentioning this when returning the form? I am not questioning the 48mph just asking whether any other 'speeders' caught by the same camera had the same question? (Cars either side of me were also flashed at the same time)
Any advice welcome...
Is it possible that the display was out of sync with the camera? Does this ever happen and if so is it worth mentioning this when returning the form? I am not questioning the 48mph just asking whether any other 'speeders' caught by the same camera had the same question? (Cars either side of me were also flashed at the same time)
Any advice welcome...
Perhaps you ‘switched off’ after seeing the 50 sign. We have had dual carriageway works for a long time around here. The initial speed limit drops from NSL of 70, down to 50, and nearer the actual works to 40.
(Yes, they are actually working, some serious digging gear there, that looks as if it is about to swing into the road and take your roof and head off!)
(Yes, they are actually working, some serious digging gear there, that looks as if it is about to swing into the road and take your roof and head off!)
Out of interest: does anyone know what the timeframe is between a sign changing the speed . . . and the camera enforcing it?
I assume (perhaps dangerously) that there is some common sense, and if I am about to pass under a 60 limit (at 60) and i see that change to 40 im not expected to chuck an anchor out of my car to meet the new speed limit within a few yards of the gantry?
I assume (perhaps dangerously) that there is some common sense, and if I am about to pass under a 60 limit (at 60) and i see that change to 40 im not expected to chuck an anchor out of my car to meet the new speed limit within a few yards of the gantry?
Cheers!
In addition to this: when the OP gets the picture clearly showing it WAS a 40 . . . does the OP also get proof from the enforcement folks that the gantry had been at 40 for more than the (assumed) 10 seconds? If not, OP might have been 'caught' by a gantry that had literally just changed?
In addition to this: when the OP gets the picture clearly showing it WAS a 40 . . . does the OP also get proof from the enforcement folks that the gantry had been at 40 for more than the (assumed) 10 seconds? If not, OP might have been 'caught' by a gantry that had literally just changed?
andyvvc said:
Cheers!
In addition to this: when the OP gets the picture clearly showing it WAS a 40 . . . does the OP also get proof from the enforcement folks that the gantry had been at 40 for more than the (assumed) 10 seconds? If not, OP might have been 'caught' by a gantry that had literally just changed?
Good point.... I'll let you all know once I receive the picture. Might have to end up eating humble pie but there you go....In addition to this: when the OP gets the picture clearly showing it WAS a 40 . . . does the OP also get proof from the enforcement folks that the gantry had been at 40 for more than the (assumed) 10 seconds? If not, OP might have been 'caught' by a gantry that had literally just changed?
Far Cough said:
bigandclever said:
60 seconds, Auto Express FOI request to Highways England in 2020, etc etc.
SS2. said:
10 seconds is the statutory minimum.
There you go. PH at its best !The statutory period from the point a lower limit is indicated until that limit is in effect is 10 seconds.
When enforcement commences following that limit change (which clearly cannot be within the first 10 seconds) is discretionary.. The claim from Auto Express is that this is 60 seconds. Personally, I wouldn't want to assume that was the case across all areas.
Far Cough said:
bigandclever said:
60 seconds, Auto Express FOI request to Highways England in 2020, etc etc.
SS2. said:
10 seconds is the statutory minimum.
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