Quick parking question
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I got a parking ticket (Parking Charge Notice) at a Smyths toy shop location in Cheltenham 13 days ago. I had my daughter with me who has Downs Syndrome and there were no disabled parking bays. As I own a large car I parked at the back of the car park and placed my two wheels up on the kerb to enable her to exit the car. The kerb in question was around a flower bed in the middle of the car park.
I was gone 15 minutes and thought all was well but UKPC decided I should get a £100 fine reduced to £60 if paid by tomorrow. The car park notice was issued by their guy who sat in the car opposite and waited for me to exit watching my daughter struggle to get out.
Now my quick question.
Does a parking bay need painted lines on all sides to define it as it were or is a kerb deemed sufficient to define the space?
Just thinking of a challenge as the reason is “not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space”
Ticked off as didn’t ticket other cars diagonally parked etc.
I was gone 15 minutes and thought all was well but UKPC decided I should get a £100 fine reduced to £60 if paid by tomorrow. The car park notice was issued by their guy who sat in the car opposite and waited for me to exit watching my daughter struggle to get out.
Now my quick question.
Does a parking bay need painted lines on all sides to define it as it were or is a kerb deemed sufficient to define the space?
Just thinking of a challenge as the reason is “not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space”
Ticked off as didn’t ticket other cars diagonally parked etc.
Edited by Mikebentley on Friday 21st October 20:16
Mikebentley said:
I got a parking ticket (Parking Charge Notice) at a Smyths toy shop location in Cheltenham 13 days ago. I had my daughter with me who has Downs Syndrome and there were no disabled parking bays. As I own a large car I parked at the back of the car park and placed my two wheels up on the kerb to enable her to exit the car. The kerb in question was around a flower bed in the middle of the car park.
I was gone 15 minutes and thought all was well but UKPC decided I should get a £100 fine reduced to £60 if paid by tomorrow. The car park notice was issued by their guy who sat in the car opposite and waited for me to exit watching my daughter struggle to get out.
Now my quick question.
Does a parking bay need painted lines on all three sides to define it as it were or is a kerb deemed sufficient to define the space?
Just thinking of a challenge as the reason is “not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space”
Ticked off as didn’t ticket other cars diagonally parked etc.
Think you'll be wasting your time.I was gone 15 minutes and thought all was well but UKPC decided I should get a £100 fine reduced to £60 if paid by tomorrow. The car park notice was issued by their guy who sat in the car opposite and waited for me to exit watching my daughter struggle to get out.
Now my quick question.
Does a parking bay need painted lines on all three sides to define it as it were or is a kerb deemed sufficient to define the space?
Just thinking of a challenge as the reason is “not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space”
Ticked off as didn’t ticket other cars diagonally parked etc.
Yep I know that a Parking Charge Notice is not a Penalty C N and as such they can only ultimately threaten me with a CCJ and debt collectors not Court Certified Enforcement Agents. I know I can tell debt collectors to sling their hook, they have no powers. I also know by fighting or ignoring if it goes to small claims I could be looking at significantly more.
Riley Blue said:
anonymous said:
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Was wondering the same, I'd have thought that made it more difficult to step down from.My question was though does the definition of the markings of the bay refer to and include kerbs?
Draxindustries1 said:
It's out of a marked space, not worth fighting this one for £30...
It is £100 reduced to £60 if I pay it today. The law was supposed to change and bring it in line with Penalty Charge Notices this year but the Gubberment stopped it happening. Apparently 20000 are issued every day!Mikebentley said:
djc206 said:
If a kerb is enough to mark the boundary of a highway I would have thought it would suffice for a parking space but in this instance it’s seems a bit s
tty of them. Can the shop manager help you out?
Wasn’t interested as they share car park with other shops.tty of them. Can the shop manager help you out?Thanks for the answers. I really did quite fancy telling them to shove it up their arses. I know the laws surrounding enforcement of debts as it’s what I am involved in daily. The reality is though that the picture I was happy to post looks like a prat parked slovenly and unfortunately that’s what an adjudicator would see.
£60 isn’t going to make a difference to me but it’s not worth my time and effort to argue my corner having just looked into it. The risk is it rising to over £200 + costs.
I was genuinely interested in what defines “markings in relationship to a marked bay or space” though as thought I might easily shove it to them.
£60 isn’t going to make a difference to me but it’s not worth my time and effort to argue my corner having just looked into it. The risk is it rising to over £200 + costs.
I was genuinely interested in what defines “markings in relationship to a marked bay or space” though as thought I might easily shove it to them.
OP this is one where an all-out assault on Smyths social media accounts will pay dividends...
"cue music".
Man and DS daughters go to their favourite toy shop to treat his DS daughter - BUT - gets treatedly shamefully by a heartless parking warden...
"cue righteous outrage"
Full refund / apology / free toys / etc within 24 hours
"cue music".
Man and DS daughters go to their favourite toy shop to treat his DS daughter - BUT - gets treatedly shamefully by a heartless parking warden...
"cue righteous outrage"
Full refund / apology / free toys / etc within 24 hours
Cannon Fodder not my style.
The likely next step will be man goes into Smyths spends £3k on lots of toys circa £1.99 each gets staff to ring it all up.
Then man turns round and says he has changed his mind explains why to store manager and walks out.
As it happens my daughter who is 17 was buying her brother some Lego for his birthday the next day.
The likely next step will be man goes into Smyths spends £3k on lots of toys circa £1.99 each gets staff to ring it all up.
Then man turns round and says he has changed his mind explains why to store manager and walks out.
As it happens my daughter who is 17 was buying her brother some Lego for his birthday the next day.
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