What happens when you get 9 points?

[alstemp]

Hi. I'v received an NIP relating to speeding. 61 in a 50mph M3 average speed check area between Wraysbury and Basingstoke. I already have 6 points on my licence, and the earliest any of these will expire is Sep 2023.

I'm obviously not suitable for a speed awareness test so have to take the points. I'm guessing it's not worth contesting this?

What happens when you get 9 points? Like to know if I need to get legal advice or have a solicitor on standby from now on given if I get any further tickets I'll be disqualified.

Should I consult a solicitor before I accept the NIP/confirm it was me driving? Or speak to solicitor once I have the fixed penalty notice?

If I did get any further ticket before Sep 2023 and hence 12 points, what happens - do they take your licence straight away? Not that I intend to and will be scared witless of going above any speed limit from now on.

Thanks all

[Tom8]

Why would you contest it and on what basis? You've done the crime, numerous times it seems, best thing is to actually learn from it and follow the law in future.

[SS2.]

alstemp said:

I'm obviously not suitable for a speed awareness test so have to take the points.

Why not ? Have you attended a motorway SAC within the past three years ?

[Yertis]

alstemp said:

What happens when you get 9 points?

Nothing happens except yr insurance goes up a bit, and you do your damnedest not to get caught speeding again.

[LosingGrip]

alstemp said:

Hi. I'v received an NIP relating to speeding. 61 in a 50mph M3 average speed check area between Wraysbury and Basingstoke. I already have 6 points on my licence, and the earliest any of these will expire is Sep 2023.

I'm obviously not suitable for a speed awareness test so have to take the points. I'm guessing it's not worth contesting this?

What happens when you get 9 points? Like to know if I need to get legal advice or have a solicitor on standby from now on given if I get any further tickets I'll be disqualified.

Should I consult a solicitor before I accept the NIP/confirm it was me driving? Or speak to solicitor once I have the fixed penalty notice?

If I did get any further ticket before Sep 2023 and hence 12 points, what happens - do they take your licence straight away? Not that I intend to and will be scared witless of going above any speed limit from now on.

Thanks all

If you wish to contest the ticket then it may be worth getting legal advice. If you weren't speeding, go not guilty. If you were then accept the FPN.

If you get caught again you'll get dealt with via the courts. Likely a six month ban for totting up. If you get caught in August 2023 and in court in October 2023 for example I believe you'll still get a ban but could be wrong.

[Mallard126]

SS2. said:

alstemp said:

I'm obviously not suitable for a speed awareness test so have to take the points.

Why not ? Have you attended a motorway SAC within the past three years ?

It's now any SAC in the past three years. I was precluded from doing a motorway SAC when I was done at 80 on the M5 last year because I'd done a SAC when I got done at 81 on the A64 the year before.

[surveyor]

You drive very slowly and carefully!

[graldves]

Mallard126 said:

SS2. said:

alstemp said:

I'm obviously not suitable for a speed awareness test so have to take the points.

Why not ? Have you attended a motorway SAC within the past three years ?

It's now any SAC in the past three years. I was precluded from doing a motorway SAC when I was done at 80 on the M5 last year because I'd done a SAC when I got done at 81 on the A64 the year before.

How did you get caught on the M5?

[Mallard126]

HADECS camera on side gantry. No temp limit in place so it was 80 in a 70.

[Super Sonic]

What do you say to someone with nine points on his license?
There's not much you can say, he's already been told three times.
Either slow down, or open your eyes.

[Sheepshanks]

surveyor said:

You drive very slowly and carefully!

One of my colleagues - guy in his early 50's with no previous - got nabbed three times in two weeks. He wouldn't drive unless it was absolutely unavoidable - got his wife or other colleagues to drive him.

[SS2.]

Mallard126 said:

SS2. said:

alstemp said:

I'm obviously not suitable for a speed awareness test so have to take the points.

Why not ? Have you attended a motorway SAC within the past three years ?

It's now any SAC in the past three years. I was precluded from doing a motorway SAC when I was done at 80 on the M5 last year because I'd done a SAC when I got done at 81 on the A64 the year before.

That's news to me.

Whilst it could be old information, NDORS is continuing to advise that an invitation to attend a Motorway Awareness Course is not precluded by attendance of a Speed Awareness Course within the past 3 years.

Do you have a source for your claim ?

[TheLoraxxZeus]

alstemp said:

Not that I intend to and will be scared witless of going above any speed limit from now on.

Yeah I'm sure you have learnt your lesson lol.

[graldves]

Mallard126 said:

HADECS camera on side gantry. No temp limit in place so it was 80 in a 70.

Can't understand why you did not get the course. They still advise otherwise.

[Mallard126]

SS2. said:

Mallard126 said:

SS2. said:

alstemp said:

I'm obviously not suitable for a speed awareness test so have to take the points.

Why not ? Have you attended a motorway SAC within the past three years ?

It's now any SAC in the past three years. I was precluded from doing a motorway SAC when I was done at 80 on the M5 last year because I'd done a SAC when I got done at 81 on the A64 the year before.

That's news to me.

Whilst it could be old information, NDORS is continuing to advise that an invitation to attend a Motorway Awareness Course is not precluded by attendance of a Speed Awareness Course within the past 3 years.

Do you have a source for your claim ?

Maybe I was just very unlucky then. I don't have a source other than the 3 points on my licence for SP50. I thought that a motorway SAC would be different to an A road SAC but alas when I sent off my forms to say I'd take the offered SAC I soon received a reply saying that I was ineligible as I'd attended another SAC within the time limit.

Not sure if it makes a difference that the A road was a NSL dual carriageway so also a 70 limit.

The motorway offence was June 2021 and the Dual Carriageway was November 2019.

[catso]

Super Sonic said:

What do you say to someone with nine points on his license?
There's not much you can say, he's already been told three times.
Either slow down, or open your eyes.

[pedantmode]Or twice?[/pedantmode]

I had 3 points on mine and was 'awarded' 6 by a Magistrate.

As it happened the 3 points actually expired the day after the second offence was committed so although I technically had 9 for totting purposes (and the Magistrate was keen to point this out), I only had 6 active on my licence as the court case was months after the offence.

[Mallard126]

Ah -got it, SS2.

Your post says a "motorway awareness course" which is different to a speed awareness course.

Motorway awareness courses as I understand it are specifically for education on offences in a "restricted area" on a smart motorway e.g. driving in a closed lane and possibly speeding through a signposted lower limit.

As there was no temporary limit posted, my offence fell under the SAC guidelines, not the MAC.

Edited by Mallard126 on Tuesday 25th October 16:38

[Dave Hedgehog]

a) If your young prepare to get hammered on your insurance, insurance co's do not like 9 points

b) run waze every-time you drive even if you do not set a destination, it will warn you of all camera sites, avg speed sites and 99% of mobile sites, it will beep at you if you go over the speed limit

c) buy a st box slow car, I ran a very leggy auto Volvo V90 that could barely hit 90 going uphill for 18 months whilst i burnt off most of the points

[Pica-Pica]

Mallard126 said:

Ah -got it, SS2.

Your post says a "motorway awareness course" which is different to a speed awareness course.

Motorway awareness courses as I understand it are specifically for education on offences in a "restricted area" on a smart motorway e.g. driving in a closed lane and possibly speeding through a signposted lower limit.

As there was no temporary limit posted, my offence fell under the SAC guidelines, not the MAC.

Edited by Mallard126 on Tuesday 25th October 16:38

It pays to read in detail !

[Durzel]

Sheepshanks said:

surveyor said:

You drive very slowly and carefully!

One of my colleagues - guy in his early 50's with no previous - got nabbed three times in two weeks. He wouldn't drive unless it was absolutely unavoidable - got his wife or other colleagues to drive him.

That seems so strange. Is he incapable of controlling his right foot, or just simply can't deal with driving up to the speed limit?

Not being facetious - just trying to understand why this guy has to get other people to drive him when he's perfectly capable of driving himself, and it's legal for him to do so?