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So in order to be guilty of blackmail can you threaten to do something if I don’t agree to something else.
Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
surveyor_101 said:
So in order to be guilty of blackmail can you threaten to do something if I don’t agree to something else.
Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
yesBasically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
TheDrownedApe said:
surveyor_101 said:
So in order to be guilty of blackmail can you threaten to do something if I don’t agree to something else.
Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
yesBasically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
Skellum said:
TheDrownedApe said:
surveyor_101 said:
So in order to be guilty of blackmail can you threaten to do something if I don’t agree to something else.
Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
yesBasically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
If I am correct she wants to take the children out of school for a holiday? From the OP you have 1 child in year 10, another in year 9, plus 2 more?
If so, apart from the fact she would need to get permission from the school and potentially pay a fine I see no real issue, none of the children are in GCSE year (year 11). Personally I would not dream of doing this, since I value the children's education much higher than p*ssing off my ex.
If so, apart from the fact she would need to get permission from the school and potentially pay a fine I see no real issue, none of the children are in GCSE year (year 11). Personally I would not dream of doing this, since I value the children's education much higher than p*ssing off my ex.
surveyor_101 said:
So in order to be guilty of blackmail can you threaten to do something if I don’t agree to something else.
Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
Largechris said:
No idea is question is but surmising a that summer holiday probably last week last summer term teachers the when have given up anyway.
Big deal not I think.
Excellent answer which sorts it all out.Big deal not I think.
I think
surveyor_101 said:
So in order to be guilty of blackmail can you threaten to do something if I don’t agree to something else.
Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
But she HAS given you two month's notice so I'm not sure what the issue is Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
surveyor_101 said:
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So don't approve the holiday. You could also pre-warn the School that this is what she is planning and they might send her a warning lettersurveyor_101 said:
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
It's a pointless threat. You can prove that you have paid.surveyor_101 said:
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
Why did they have to go with an AOE if you were happy to pay? Resigning purely because of an AOE is cutting your nose off to spite your face.surveyor_101 said:
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
which suggests that she won't report you so (again) an empty threatsurveyor_101 said:
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
It's not blackmail because it's literally an empty threat. IF she reports you (and it's a big IF) you'll pay via CMS and she's worse offJordie Barretts sock said:
mgtony said:
Largechris said:
No idea is question is but surmising a that summer holiday probably last week last summer term teachers the when have given up anyway.
Big deal not I think.
This will probably only make sense to the OP. Big deal not I think.
surveyor_101 said:
So in order to be guilty of blackmail can you threaten to do something if I don’t agree to something else.
Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
Say What? Basically my ex has booked next summer holiday a week in school time and is taking are eldest out for GCSEs, our court order states she must give two months notice on holidays.
I have said I objected due to it being in term time for all the children year 9 and 10, 7 and 4.
So she has said she will report me to cps again and instigate a claim and tell them I have paid for the last year!
She closed the last claim as when we disagreed she would call them and say I don’t pay! Which would create a lot hassle and they are supposed to investigate my payments but the last they they sat on it for 4 months and just issued an attachment of earnings which I promptly resigned and intended to go self employed.
When she realise the Cms take 3 or 4 months to get payments to her she realised she had shot herself in the foot as I pay on time.
So agreed to go direct again but she literally blackmails me with them!
Foss62 said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
mgtony said:
Largechris said:
No idea is question is but surmising a that summer holiday probably last week last summer term teachers the when have given up anyway.
Big deal not I think.
This will probably only make sense to the OP. Big deal not I think.
So I have had 3 out of 4 wrong calculations from the cms, they lost the court order and started making up the days I have the kids, I have 50 50 shared care, so should not be paying a small fortune but if you earn over 25k I think the incompetent staff class you as boris Johnson and assume 1300 a a month when you have buy clothes when they are yours is not problem for you! I have complained but they take 6 months and write back a load of twaddle and review the wrong calculation, not even the current calculation.
She lied several times calling them and saying I didn’t pay when I had the first few times they write to me and i have provide bank statements within 28 days. There is no ramifications for calling and making false statements. The last time they did not bother contacting me, did nothing for 5 months then sent an attachment to earnings assuming now I had built up sizeable arrears when I hadn’t. Then they forged a back dated letter to cover their bums. I have Screen shot of portal showing no pre warning letter it appeared magically when I wrote challenging it. They add 20% to your payments as well if they have to collect them.
Long and short if it was I resigned as my employer assuming how can I run multi million value contracts when I don’t pay my bills was not happy with attachment earnings. I was all set up to go freelance and my ex called them to to find she would have to wait 3 or 4 months before the cms made payments, she decided that maybe she did like my reliable reasonable payments. They she called me demanding I make payments, i of course said I these are now taken, so she promptly closed the claim down, to ensure cash flow. My payment is around half her income as she works part time so she cannot afford to go a 1/3 of year without as it pays her mums mortgage on the house she lives in soon to be sold as her step dad got fed up with this level of stress and took his own life in may.
She basically sends msg saying just to let you know I have booked to take the kids out on your weekend or in this case out of school NS if I point out it’s my weekend or she needs my agreement to take them out makes various threats like call the cms.
The cms will not take any payments I have made already into account outside of a live claim.
She lied several times calling them and saying I didn’t pay when I had the first few times they write to me and i have provide bank statements within 28 days. There is no ramifications for calling and making false statements. The last time they did not bother contacting me, did nothing for 5 months then sent an attachment to earnings assuming now I had built up sizeable arrears when I hadn’t. Then they forged a back dated letter to cover their bums. I have Screen shot of portal showing no pre warning letter it appeared magically when I wrote challenging it. They add 20% to your payments as well if they have to collect them.
Long and short if it was I resigned as my employer assuming how can I run multi million value contracts when I don’t pay my bills was not happy with attachment earnings. I was all set up to go freelance and my ex called them to to find she would have to wait 3 or 4 months before the cms made payments, she decided that maybe she did like my reliable reasonable payments. They she called me demanding I make payments, i of course said I these are now taken, so she promptly closed the claim down, to ensure cash flow. My payment is around half her income as she works part time so she cannot afford to go a 1/3 of year without as it pays her mums mortgage on the house she lives in soon to be sold as her step dad got fed up with this level of stress and took his own life in may.
She basically sends msg saying just to let you know I have booked to take the kids out on your weekend or in this case out of school NS if I point out it’s my weekend or she needs my agreement to take them out makes various threats like call the cms.
The cms will not take any payments I have made already into account outside of a live claim.
Edited by surveyor_101 on Wednesday 23 November 19:59
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