Police recruitment Warwickshire.
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Sebring440 said:
BertBert said:
NHW?
Non Hazardous Waste.Who me said:
Bert- it's neighborhood watch.
ThanksWho me said:
You the old folks who sit behind curtains and "twitch".We're the folks who police the local areas.
Do what?ETA Curious that the "?" in the user name breaks the quote mechanism. There must be a schism in the quote mechanism
This is how bad it’s getting, I spoke with one of the trainers in my old force recently. They told me that recruitment at the moment is horrendous. They get lots of recruits but lots drop out before training finishes. Also recently a recruit was posted to a town but he told the trainer he couldn’t work there because he had a non molestation order forbidding him to enter that town! Apparently the vetting team and recruitment team were aware of this. Left me speechless to be honest.
Snoozy said:
This is how bad it’s getting, I spoke with one of the trainers in my old force recently. They told me that recruitment at the moment is horrendous. They get lots of recruits but lots drop out before training finishes. Also recently a recruit was posted to a town but he told the trainer he couldn’t work there because he had a non molestation order forbidding him to enter that town! Apparently the vetting team and recruitment team were aware of this. Left me speechless to be honest.
On the plus side he was doing his best to comply with the order!NMSO are issued like loo paper these days from what I hear, any amber heard type can get one.
From what I hear if your non white or tick a selective box they from a rainbow gang they can overlook such minor indiscretions
Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 15th December 10:58
Snoozy said:
This is how bad it’s getting, I spoke with one of the trainers in my old force recently. They told me that recruitment at the moment is horrendous. They get lots of recruits but lots drop out before training finishes. Also recently a recruit was posted to a town but he told the trainer he couldn’t work there because he had a non molestation order forbidding him to enter that town! Apparently the vetting team and recruitment team were aware of this. Left me speechless to be honest.
Non mols are fairly easy to get as it’s from the family court rather than criminal. surely it’s a good thing if people drop out for whatever reason. It’s not a job for everyone. You won’t know until you do it.
I’d rather someone held their hands up and said it’s not for me than stay if they didn’t enjoy it.
That being said we had someone leave after a month as we had to do an observation shift on a weekend and they didn’t want to do shift work or deal with the people we deal with…they were a special before hand so would have known…
surveyor_101 said:
On the plus side he was doing his best to comply with the order!
NMSO are issued like loo paper these days from what I hear, any amber heard type can get one.
From what I hear if your non white or tick a selective box they from a rainbow gang they can overlook such minor indiscretions
Also if you say you're English, they'll arrest you.NMSO are issued like loo paper these days from what I hear, any amber heard type can get one.
From what I hear if your non white or tick a selective box they from a rainbow gang they can overlook such minor indiscretions
Edited by surveyor_101 on Thursday 15th December 10:58
Any thoughts from those in the job on how to improve recruitment and retention?
Seems to me like it goes far beyond pay, main turn off for me would be constantly getting off work late and having rest days cancelled or moved at short notice. Must be so hard to plan any sort of meaningful family life and I think the whole work/life balance is the single most important factor to most younger workers these days.
Other observation is that in my dad's day, you joined in your late teens / early 20s and did your 30 based solely around getting the gold plated pension. Those I know in the police now do it more as an experience for 5-10 years before moving on.
Seems to me like it goes far beyond pay, main turn off for me would be constantly getting off work late and having rest days cancelled or moved at short notice. Must be so hard to plan any sort of meaningful family life and I think the whole work/life balance is the single most important factor to most younger workers these days.
Other observation is that in my dad's day, you joined in your late teens / early 20s and did your 30 based solely around getting the gold plated pension. Those I know in the police now do it more as an experience for 5-10 years before moving on.
LosingGrip said:
(snip) they were a special before hand so would have known…
Probably thought they were going to get a white cover and their own X5 from day 1R56Cooper said:
Any thoughts from those in the job on how to improve recruitment and retention?
Seems to me like it goes far beyond pay, main turn off for me would be constantly getting off work late and having rest days cancelled or moved at short notice. Must be so hard to plan any sort of meaningful family life and I think the whole work/life balance is the single most important factor to most younger workers these days.
Other observation is that in my dad's day, you joined in your late teens / early 20s and did your 30 based solely around getting the gold plated pension. Those I know in the police now do it more as an experience for 5-10 years before moving on.
Proper investment in emergency mental health, social services and the courts process would helpSeems to me like it goes far beyond pay, main turn off for me would be constantly getting off work late and having rest days cancelled or moved at short notice. Must be so hard to plan any sort of meaningful family life and I think the whole work/life balance is the single most important factor to most younger workers these days.
Other observation is that in my dad's day, you joined in your late teens / early 20s and did your 30 based solely around getting the gold plated pension. Those I know in the police now do it more as an experience for 5-10 years before moving on.
Collectingbrass said:
LosingGrip said:
(snip) they were a special before hand so would have known…
Probably thought they were going to get a white cover and their own X5 from day 1R56Cooper said:
Any thoughts from those in the job on how to improve recruitment and retention?
Seems to me like it goes far beyond pay, main turn off for me would be constantly getting off work late and having rest days cancelled or moved at short notice. Must be so hard to plan any sort of meaningful family life and I think the whole work/life balance is the single most important factor to most younger workers these days.
Other observation is that in my dad's day, you joined in your late teens / early 20s and did your 30 based solely around getting the gold plated pension. Those I know in the police now do it more as an experience for 5-10 years before moving on.
Proper investment in emergency mental health, social services and the courts process would helpSeems to me like it goes far beyond pay, main turn off for me would be constantly getting off work late and having rest days cancelled or moved at short notice. Must be so hard to plan any sort of meaningful family life and I think the whole work/life balance is the single most important factor to most younger workers these days.
Other observation is that in my dad's day, you joined in your late teens / early 20s and did your 30 based solely around getting the gold plated pension. Those I know in the police now do it more as an experience for 5-10 years before moving on.
The PCDA degree scheme is a disaster. The degree itself has no relevance to policing and the academic workload on top of shift work and file preparation is causing large numbers to quit.
The degree also means you need a certain number of UCAS points to apply.
This prevents many older people applying, many with the exact sort of life experience we need. Instead we get far too many youngsters whose only life experience is what they see on snapogram or Tiktoc. They struggle to accept they are in a disciplined service.
My Force held 'recruitment events' where college kids were literally dragged off the street and asked to sign on the line. If Forces don't recruit enough to meet Government targets they lose financing.
It's never been easier to get in and response teams in particular are suffering the consequences of extremely low recruitment standards.
The degree also means you need a certain number of UCAS points to apply.
This prevents many older people applying, many with the exact sort of life experience we need. Instead we get far too many youngsters whose only life experience is what they see on snapogram or Tiktoc. They struggle to accept they are in a disciplined service.
My Force held 'recruitment events' where college kids were literally dragged off the street and asked to sign on the line. If Forces don't recruit enough to meet Government targets they lose financing.
It's never been easier to get in and response teams in particular are suffering the consequences of extremely low recruitment standards.
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