Fake Gatso
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Simpo Two

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91,273 posts

288 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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What's the legality of these? Came across this expert example today - it was only after I'd gone past (at 25 after sudden braking because it surprised me) that I thought 'Funny, no road markings'...







Would the police applaud it as a valuable contribution to road safety, or does it qualify as vigilantism, which they are not fond of?

Evanivitch

25,840 posts

145 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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It's just a obscure garden ornament. Plenty of them around.

The modern ones are just CCTV bullet cameras painted yellow.

Terminator X

19,528 posts

227 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Burn it.

TX.

ARHarh

4,892 posts

130 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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There was a similar attempt in a village near me a few years back. The authorities had it removed within days. Not sure if it was police or highways who removed it.

Waynester

6,497 posts

273 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Can’t see how that would be legal.. To me, this is akin to putting up your own homemade traffic sign? And what are the implications for the person who put it up ‘if’ an accident occurred as a direct result of this fake camera.. a car brakes suddenly and is rear ended.

Aside from it being poor driving standards.. surely the homeowner has some responsibility to answer?

Rozzers

2,973 posts

98 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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A Fatso?

Driver101

14,451 posts

144 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Waynester said:
Can’t see how that would be legal.. To me, this is akin to putting up your own homemade traffic sign? And what are the implications for the person who put it up ‘if’ an accident occurred as a direct result of this fake camera.. a car brakes suddenly and is rear ended.

Aside from it being poor driving standards.. surely the homeowner has some responsibility to answer?
No implications I would hope. There is zero excuse for having a crash because a fake or real camera is at the roadside.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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No, they're not legal. Report to the council and they'll arrange to have it removed.

gazza285

10,846 posts

231 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Waynester said:
Can’t see how that would be legal.. To me, this is akin to putting up your own homemade traffic sign? And what are the implications for the person who put it up ‘if’ an accident occurred as a direct result of this fake camera.. a car brakes suddenly and is rear ended.

Aside from it being poor driving standards.. surely the homeowner has some responsibility to answer?
You are implying that owning a yellow box would be illegal?

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

91,273 posts

288 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Waynester said:
Can’t see how that would be legal.. To me, this is akin to putting up your own homemade traffic sign? And what are the implications for the person who put it up ‘if’ an accident occurred as a direct result of this fake camera.. a car brakes suddenly and is rear ended.

Aside from it being poor driving standards.. surely the homeowner has some responsibility to answer?
Wow this forum moves fast!

It may be that they asked for a speed camera, didn't get one for various sound reasons, so made their own.

Tempting idea to cut it down but they probably have CCTV with night vision. Happy to report it - wonder if local or county council?

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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gazza285 said:
Waynester said:
Can’t see how that would be legal.. To me, this is akin to putting up your own homemade traffic sign? And what are the implications for the person who put it up ‘if’ an accident occurred as a direct result of this fake camera.. a car brakes suddenly and is rear ended.

Aside from it being poor driving standards.. surely the homeowner has some responsibility to answer?
You are implying that owning a yellow box would be illegal?
Depends on its intended use.

Driver101

14,451 posts

144 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Simpo Two said:
Wow this forum moves fast!

It may be that they asked for a speed camera, didn't get one for various sound reasons, so made their own.

Tempting idea to cut it down but they probably have CCTV with night vision. Happy to report it - wonder if local or county council?
Why would you want to cut it down? Why not just leave it alone?

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

91,273 posts

288 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Driver101 said:
Why would you want to cut it down? Why not just leave it alone?
Because it's not approved by the authorities, yet is passing off as having been. It's no different in my book from driving around in a fake police car. Without the accompanying warning signs I regard it as a hazard.

bigandclever

14,215 posts

261 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Personally I think it’s a knob’s trick, but it looks to be entirely within the property so what are you going to do?

Driver101

14,451 posts

144 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Simpo Two said:
Driver101 said:
Why would you want to cut it down? Why not just leave it alone?
Because it's not approved by the authorities, yet is passing off as having been. It's no different in my book from driving around in a fake police car. Without the accompanying warning signs I regard it as a hazard.
It is nothing close to driving around in a fake police car.

Lots of real cameras don't have warning signs. If that fake camera is enough to make a driver a hazard then they shouldn't be driving.

The owner of that house probably has good reason to be annoyed with the driving standards and feels forced to do something like that. It doesn't affect you. Just leave it and move on.

anonymous-user

77 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Putting up fake Gatsos is as bad as the Walts on the misfits thread.

gazza285

10,846 posts

231 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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I like these bird boxes.


NMNeil

5,860 posts

73 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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ARHarh said:
There was a similar attempt in a village near me a few years back. The authorities had it removed within days. Not sure if it was police or highways who removed it.
Looks like it's on private property, so going to take some justification to ask the homeowner to remove it.

Evanivitch

25,840 posts

145 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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Simpo Two said:
Because it's not approved by the authorities, yet is passing off as having been. It's no different in my book from driving around in a fake police car. Without the accompanying warning signs I regard it as a hazard.
I wasn't aware legitimate speed cameras required "warning signs" laugh

Mr Miata

1,219 posts

73 months

Monday 26th December 2022
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This can’t be any different than several supermarkets using a ridiculous cardboard cutout of the same police officer, in the wrong uniform for the county.

I don’t get who they’re fooling?…

… Everyone knows the police don’t investigate theft anymore.