Anyone know of any refs on workmen blocking access to drive
Anyone know of any refs on workmen blocking access to drive
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poca2hontas

Original Poster:

2 posts

107 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Hi everyone,

I’ve tracked the net to try to find out about regulations for this but can’t find anything, can anyone offer any advice please?

We live next to a pub who have had electric car charging points installed. Workmen are digging up pavement outside our property in relation to this. We have been given no prior notice, Both our drives blocked off. Woke up to being coned off and needed to do school run. We did manage to open cones. Workmen speak v little English. So then they actually dig across pavement and drives which we didn’t know, could have told us when I first asked them to move cones.
Surely they need to give you some written warning prior so can move vehicles? Also husband out and can’t return and not happy leaving his car elsewhere.
Cheers

jan8p

1,834 posts

251 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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If there is a dropped kerb, it can be an offence to block access from your property to the road.

You could also just ask them to sort you out with access.



Edited by jan8p on Saturday 25th February 10:55

A500leroy

7,738 posts

141 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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poca2hontas said:
Hi everyone,

I’ve tracked the net to try to find out about regulations for this but can’t find anything, can anyone offer any advice please?

We live next to a pub who have had electric car charging points installed. Workmen are digging up pavement outside our property in relation to this. We have been given no prior notice, Both our drives blocked off. Woke up to being coned off and needed to do school run. We did manage to open cones. Workmen speak v little English. So then they actually dig across pavement and drives which we didn’t know, could have told us when I first asked them to move cones.
Surely they need to give you some written warning prior so can move vehicles? Also husband out and can’t return and not happy leaving his car elsewhere.
Cheers
They should supply a board for you to drive over.

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Use the pub car park!

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LordHaveMurci

12,325 posts

192 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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poca2hontas said:
Hi everyone,

I’ve tracked the net to try to find out about regulations for this but can’t find anything, can anyone offer any advice please?

We live next to a pub who have had electric car charging points installed. Workmen are digging up pavement outside our property in relation to this. We have been given no prior notice, Both our drives blocked off. Woke up to being coned off and needed to do school run. We did manage to open cones. Workmen speak v little English. So then they actually dig across pavement and drives which we didn’t know, could have told us when I first asked them to move cones.
Surely they need to give you some written warning prior so can move vehicles? Also husband out and can’t return and not happy leaving his car elsewhere.
Cheers
Top lurking!

IJWS15

2,122 posts

108 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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They should have a board out showing emergency contact details, failing that, or instead, call the councils streetworks depts emergency number. All sorts of red flags showing.

Rough101

2,968 posts

98 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Who are they working for? If it’s the power utility they have a statutory right to do this more or less unhindered, but they have to afford you reasonable access or provide an alternative, doesn’t mean it won’t be inconvenient.

TheDrownedApe

1,597 posts

79 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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We had this issue recently in our village when a sub, sub contractor dug up whole street to install fibre without prior warning. All drives on one side were blocked for two days. Residents complained to workforce whose response was so bad that police were called. Complaints were made by councillors but fell on deaf ears as the work was finished by then and the main contractor who had subbed the work didn't really care.

Sry but pointless to do anything


poca2hontas

Original Poster:

2 posts

107 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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It’s all connected to the pub installing electric charging points so defo could have given us notice. No signs up. When they finished yesterday they did open access by covering it. Today they’ve dug even more and knocked on door to say 2 hours but speak no English. 3 hrs later and still doing it. I will defo tell my clients as I work from home to park in their car park. My elderly disabled mum who lives with us is now trapped in the house as not even safe.

sospan

2,755 posts

245 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Are the council aware of the work being done?
A near neighbour of ours got some contractors into do a job. Clear away an area bordering a public path, build a retaining wall and fence.
The council got to know about it and stopped the work immediately.Damage to the path ( used as access for tracked digger and path blocked). Large skip located on another area. Cowboy job by Irish “landscapers”.
House owners had to get it redone properly to a standard. Now ok with replacement shrubs growing and path resurfaced.
OP....have you spoken to the pub landlord? Looks like a similar “cash job” scenario ignoring any planning/ highways informing. Also, who is doing the electrical work?

Short Grain

3,431 posts

243 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Had this a few times, contractors usually leave a metal plate over the trench for access. Last time was Connexin who where great! About a months notice doing sections of the street as they worked down it. 48hrs for each section, all done!


Grumps.

17,078 posts

59 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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I don’t think any utility contractor has to give any advanced notice at all, unless the road is going to be closed.


Douglas Quaid

2,615 posts

108 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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When it happened to me I asked the workmen if they could let me out and they put a board across the trench. I then made them a cup of tea and a bit later they’d finished and it wasn’t really an issue. They were amazed I offered them a drink which is a bit sad really.

It is pretty annoying to have not been told first but if you come out and are confrontational then they will drag their feet or perhaps forget what English they know when it comes to helping out.

55palfers

6,254 posts

187 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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Grumps. said:
I don’t think any utility contractor has to give any advanced notice at all, unless the road is going to be closed.
Yes they do.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/2985/made...


Grumps.

17,078 posts

59 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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55palfers said:
Grumps. said:
I don’t think any utility contractor has to give any advanced notice at all, unless the road is going to be closed.
Yes they do.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1992/2985/made...
Christ, I can’t be bothered to read through that.

We have had all sorts of works going on around us, openreach sgn, and apart from one sign informing of a road closure for a week, the only time anyone knows about it is when they turn up.

One.network does have a lot of info on it though, and is updated when local councils give the permissions.

poo at Paul's

14,546 posts

198 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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TheDrownedApe said:
We had this issue recently in our village when a sub, sub contractor dug up whole street to install fibre without prior warning. All drives on one side were blocked for two days. Residents complained to workforce whose response was so bad that police were called. Complaints were made by councillors but fell on deaf ears as the work was finished by then and the main contractor who had subbed the work didn't really care.

Sry but pointless to do anything
Sounds like the Gigaclear mob when they did my folks village over a may bank holiday! Left open trenches on both sides of road, no barriers, completely open and no streetlights,
Also stored their roller overnight on my dads front lawn and it leaked diesel out all over the grass. biglaugh

OutInTheShed

13,012 posts

49 months

Saturday 25th February 2023
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At the end of the day, I quite like having electricity, gas, mains drainage, phone and water connected to my house, so I'm happy to take a little inconvenience with the mechanics of making that happen.
Incompetence and rudeness from the twunts who manage these operations can be another matter.

Gareth79

8,720 posts

269 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
At the end of the day, I quite like having electricity, gas, mains drainage, phone and water connected to my house, so I'm happy to take a little inconvenience with the mechanics of making that happen.
Incompetence and rudeness from the twunts who manage these operations can be another matter.
This is new services being fitted to commercial premises though, not emergency repairs or even scheduled upgrades/improvements.

Tribal Chestnut

3,001 posts

205 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
At the end of the day, I quite like having electricity, gas, mains drainage, phone and water connected to my house, so I'm happy to take a little inconvenience with the mechanics of making that happen.
I quite like going on holiday, but that also has FA to do with the OP.

jamei303

3,043 posts

179 months

Sunday 26th February 2023
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If you don't have a steel plate fill the trench outside your drive with quick-setting concrete.