Red X cameras

[Yodafone]

The top of the M3 is a smart motorway, I have noticed cameras that look like these in this link,

https://www.speedcamerasuk.com/hadecs-3.htm

So tonight on my journey home between junction 3 and 4 on the M3 there was a accident, red X was turned on 3 lanes and on 3 to 4 sets of gantries.

I moved moved over as soon as I saw the orange move over arrows.

Lots of drivers kept going and went under the red X and I saw cameras flashes but couldn't make out where it was from as it was dark.

Are those cameras used for speeding and for red X enforcement?

If yes I can see a lot of drivers getting points and fines as the rule is only a few years old so I don't think many realize.

https://nationalhighways.co.uk/road-safety/red-x/

Edited by Yodafone on Wednesday 1st March 22:19

[sunnyb13]

Yep hadec 3x used for red x enforcement

[rallycross]

Have seen this a lot on the m25 where idiots ignore the red x, how stupid are these people who go full
Speed 70+ in the rain or dark towards an unknown incident?

Worst thing is TFL/ vosa are spending millions on radio Adverts telling the thicko’s to pull in when they see the red X and also Go Left when they break down - how are so many people so dumb ?

[Yodafone]

rallycross said:

Have seen this a lot on the m25 where idiots ignore the red x, how stupid are these people who go full
Speed 70+ in the rain or dark towards an unknown incident?

Worst thing is TFL/ vosa are spending millions on radio Adverts telling the thicko’s to pull in when they see the red X and also Go Left when they break down - how are so many people so dumb ?

What I saw last night was people trying to get across then not being let in so decide to go further down to try and get in.

Some just sat behind red X and waited until someone did let them in.

[BertBert]

Yodafone said:

What I saw last night was people trying to get across then not being let in so decide to go further down to try and get in.

Some just sat behind red X and waited until someone did let them in.

That's because they had plenty of notice to move over and ignored it until they saw the red X.

[Yodafone]

BertBert said:

Yodafone said:

What I saw last night was people trying to get across then not being let in so decide to go further down to try and get in.

Some just sat behind red X and waited until someone did let them in.

That's because they had plenty of notice to move over and ignored it until they saw the red X.

Yes that is true there was 1 arrow to change from 4 lanes to 3 lanes then 3 arrows to change from 3 to 1 lane, but I notice alot try to move but could not move over.

[SmoothCriminal]

So glad they've started enforcing this although should be 6 points just like phone use.

Not as if the red x just appears out of the blue

[No ideas for a name]

Yodafone said:

Are those cameras used for speeding and for red X enforcement?

If yes I can see a lot of drivers getting points and fines as the rule is only a few years old so I don't think many realize.

The rule of not driving past a red 'X' has existed since the late 60's/early 70's
The enforcement by cameras is the only thing that has changed over the last few years.

[Ian Geary]

SmoothCriminal said:

So glad they've started enforcing this although should be 6 points just like phone use.

Not as if the red x just appears out of the blue

The problem is not as widespread - ie drivers who habitually drive with their phone probably encounter a red X very infrequently.

But the consequences could be far worse.

I totally agree about enforcement - glad to see agencies moving beyond just "speed" when it comes to camera enforcement.

I'd actually move them directly to the magistrate on a dangerous driving prosecution, not fart round with points.

[PhyllisOphical]

Excellent to see this being enforced, A red X is like a Red traffic light and should be treated accordingly.

[TheLurker]

I'm surprised it's taken this long to enforce it. It's one of those driving habits which really annoys me.

[GSA_fattie]

BertBert said:

Yodafone said:

What I saw last night was people trying to get across then not being let in so decide to go further down to try and get in.

Some just sat behind red X and waited until someone did let them in.

That's because they had plenty of notice to move over and ignored it until they saw the red X.

perhaps they were using the available road space up to the point they need to move over and then merge in turn

but because the majority of road users are thick and utterly petty about people "pushing in", merge in turn does not work in this Sceptred Isle
a case in point, a number of roads in Leicester specifically say merge in turn but you always get someone who messes it all up by not allowing it for the sake of a few metres (or yards if you're a boomer)

Moderator edit: no avoiding the swear filter please

[Pica-Pica]

Some people just find driving is beyond them.

[Countdown]

Are RedXs the same as merge in turn AT the Lane Closure (rather than “as soon as you see the Change Lane” signs)? If that’s the case it seems incredibly stupid to me and very risky.

[s p a c e m a n]

Countdown said:

Are RedXs the same as merge in turn AT the Lane Closure (rather than “as soon as you see the Change Lane” signs)? If that’s the case it seems incredibly stupid to me and very risky.

If they didn't want you to use the lanes were the move over arrows where then they would put red X's there instead

[Pica-Pica]

GSA_fattie said:

for the sake of a few metres (or yards if you're a boomer)

As a boomer, we had metric units from 6th form onward, and used SI units from when I started college and thereafter at work, as did our US colleagues in case you are interested - you’re probably not as you probably deal in fables.

[GSA_fattie]

Pica-Pica said:

GSA_fattie said:

for the sake of a few metres (or yards if you're a boomer)

As a boomer, we had metric units from 6th form onward, and used SI units from when I started college and thereafter at work, as did our US colleagues in case you are interested - you’re probably not as you probably deal in fables.

yeah, yeah, yeah just remember who's paying your pension boomer

us the forgotten ones GEN X

[NikBartlett]

There would be nothing more satisfying than blocking a driver in who has left to the last moment to change lanes and watching the camera flash as they pass into the red X zone

[speedking31]

Yodafone said:

Are those cameras used for speeding and for red X enforcement?

Red X transgression is effectively speeding. Set the limit to 0 mph for that lane and flash away.

What I want to know is "Is it permitted to cross a red X'd lane to exit the motorway?", assuming there isn't a pileup across the exit. Common sense would say yes, a nearby camera might disagree.

[Pica-Pica]

GSA_fattie said:

Pica-Pica said:

GSA_fattie said:

for the sake of a few metres (or yards if you're a boomer)

As a boomer, we had metric units from 6th form onward, and used SI units from when I started college and thereafter at work, as did our US colleagues in case you are interested - you’re probably not as you probably deal in fables.

yeah, yeah, yeah just remember who's paying your pension boomer

us the forgotten ones GEN X

I still have my own unclaimed personal pension, and I think I paid into that, and watched the market go up and down. Take some responsibility for your own outcomes, my sons don’t whinge on, they work as hard as I did and get on with their lives.