Mum kills thief - manslaughter?
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mum-jailed-fo...
Mum arrives home to find someone nicking a motorcycle from the house, gives chase and then manslaughter charge?
There must be quite some footage to show she wasn't just trying to catch him?
Mum arrives home to find someone nicking a motorcycle from the house, gives chase and then manslaughter charge?
There must be quite some footage to show she wasn't just trying to catch him?
julian64 said:
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mum-jailed-fo...
Mum arrives home to find someone nicking a motorcycle from the house, gives chase and then manslaughter charge?
There must be quite some footage to show she wasn't just trying to catch him?
Looks like the bike was stolen before it got to the daughter's house.Mum arrives home to find someone nicking a motorcycle from the house, gives chase and then manslaughter charge?
There must be quite some footage to show she wasn't just trying to catch him?
And that she wasn't chasing him as he stole it, but hours later.
Arguably, could have been murder?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-6...
OverSteery said:
A car can be used to cause physical damage or death in the same way as a knife or a gun. Too many car drivers (smug in the airbag protected crumple zone) give little respect to the poor sods on foot or bicycle.
Use a car like a weapon and the punishment should reflect that.
Yep.The unsaid but humming inference in discussions like these that instant revenge - if that is what happened here - is somehow right & justifiable because atavistic rage, is Lord of the flies stuff. Use a car like a weapon and the punishment should reflect that.
airsafari87 said:
Wonder why the msn article doesn’t mention that the bike was previously stolen?
Yep, the metro seems to be saying she happened to come upon him, and the MSN suggests she caught him in the act of stealing it?Either way it makes me think twice. If someone nicked my motorcycle and I saw them do it I would give chase. Likewise if my motorcycle had been nicked an age ago and I saw someone riding it, I would also give chase.
The question is what would happen then. Obviously wasting your time ringing the police and saying I am travelling behind my stolen bike because they would just tell you to go home and wait for a crime number, or wait for them to turn up at your house and arrest you for breaking the speed limit.
Any of the bibs on here suggest what they would do as a civvy?
Boohoo, what a pity, unfortunately I've no more f
ks to give for thieves and violent criminals. For the woman, should have been a suspended sentence and a driving ban though.
Until we have faith that the police can and will catch criminals, and that the justice system won't fail the victims, we'll see more of this. People don't have the confidence in the Police to catch them, so many will resort to doing it themselves for better or worse.
We need a properly staffed and funded police force, we need police who aren't constantly at at risk of prosecution and sanctions if a promising footballer breaks a fingernail whilst resisting arrest, and we need a lot more prison capacity.
We also need the general public to be reassured that the police have our backs. From that hopefully the people who say things like "snitches get stitches" will realise how retarded that is when you are not a criminal.
ks to give for thieves and violent criminals. For the woman, should have been a suspended sentence and a driving ban though.Until we have faith that the police can and will catch criminals, and that the justice system won't fail the victims, we'll see more of this. People don't have the confidence in the Police to catch them, so many will resort to doing it themselves for better or worse.
We need a properly staffed and funded police force, we need police who aren't constantly at at risk of prosecution and sanctions if a promising footballer breaks a fingernail whilst resisting arrest, and we need a lot more prison capacity.
We also need the general public to be reassured that the police have our backs. From that hopefully the people who say things like "snitches get stitches" will realise how retarded that is when you are not a criminal.
airsafari87 said:
Wonder why the msn article doesn’t mention that the bike was previously stolen?
It's a bit of an odd statement. Had it previously been stolen and recovered? Had Kerry Fair's daughters boyfriend stolen it? Hell it could even feasibly have been Thomas Maguire's bike stolen in 2018 that he was "recovering" (doubtful but who knows).
On the assumption he wasn't taking his own bike back I have zero sympathy for the dead thief...but that still doesn't mean you can take matters into your own hands particularly like this, lucky it was *only* the thief.
Fastdruid said:
airsafari87 said:
Wonder why the msn article doesn’t mention that the bike was previously stolen?
It's a bit of an odd statement. Had it previously been stolen and recovered? Had Kerry Fair's daughters boyfriend stolen it? Hell it could even feasibly have been Thomas Maguire's bike stolen in 2018 that he was "recovering" (doubtful but who knows).
On the assumption he wasn't taking his own bike back I have zero sympathy for the dead thief...but that still doesn't mean you can take matters into your own hands particularly like this, lucky it was *only* the thief.
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