Yodel delivery nightmare... shocker I know
Yodel delivery nightmare... shocker I know
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Gweeds

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7,954 posts

75 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Returned a pair of shoes last Monday via a shop drop-off. I've used them loads, local and reliable. Parcel tracking shows as dropped off but that's it. Went to the shop yesterday as Yodel claim they couldn't collect it at 6.30pm the following day, correct because it closes at 6pm. Shop owner showed me a huge pile of parcels not collected this week and that the same happened last week - we went through every one and mine wasn't there - he said they finally showed up Wednesday evening and collected then. Tracking hasn't updated to show this.

Yodel 'customer service' is hopeless - if I call I end up getting cut off and web chat just say 'we've raised an investigation with the depot' - there is clearly an issue there because anti last week he had daily pickups at the shop.

The return was done via the web portal of the retailer, and had a £2.95 returns fee.

What are my options here? My gut feeling is that they're gone and I'm going to end up eating this £175 cost.

joropug

2,969 posts

212 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Gweeds said:
Returned a pair of shoes last Monday via a shop drop-off. I've used them loads, local and reliable. Parcel tracking shows as dropped off but that's it. Went to the shop yesterday as Yodel claim they couldn't collect it at 6.30pm the following day, correct because it closes at 6pm. Shop owner showed me a huge pile of parcels not collected this week and that the same happened last week - we went through every one and mine wasn't there - he said they finally showed up Wednesday evening and collected then. Tracking hasn't updated to show this.

Yodel 'customer service' is hopeless - if I call I end up getting cut off and web chat just say 'we've raised an investigation with the depot' - there is clearly an issue there because anti last week he had daily pickups at the shop.

The return was done via the web portal of the retailer, and had a £2.95 returns fee.

What are my options here? My gut feeling is that they're gone and I'm going to end up eating this £175 cost.
Do you have a receipt for dropping off? If so you are probably ok as it is then out of your care and into their network/responsibility.

Muzzer79

12,658 posts

210 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Gweeds said:
Returned a pair of shoes last Monday via a shop drop-off. I've used them loads, local and reliable. Parcel tracking shows as dropped off but that's it. Went to the shop yesterday as Yodel claim they couldn't collect it at 6.30pm the following day, correct because it closes at 6pm. Shop owner showed me a huge pile of parcels not collected this week and that the same happened last week - we went through every one and mine wasn't there - he said they finally showed up Wednesday evening and collected then. Tracking hasn't updated to show this.

Yodel 'customer service' is hopeless - if I call I end up getting cut off and web chat just say 'we've raised an investigation with the depot' - there is clearly an issue there because anti last week he had daily pickups at the shop.

The return was done via the web portal of the retailer, and had a £2.95 returns fee.

What are my options here? My gut feeling is that they're gone and I'm going to end up eating this £175 cost.
If you have a receipt from the shop confirming that you dropped it with them, you are covered. If you are refused a refund, just send them that.

It's Yodel/the retailer's problem if the parcel that you passed (with evidence) to their chosen carrier has gone missing......

Gweeds

Original Poster:

7,954 posts

75 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Thanks.

I do indeed have the receipt. It shows as dropped off on the online tracking as well.

E-bmw

12,177 posts

175 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Personally, I also take a pic of the return on the counter with the receipt held in front of it & the address label showing to make sure I have maximum ammunition just in case.

Freakuk

4,405 posts

174 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Gweeds said:
Shop owner showed me a huge pile of parcels not collected this week and that the same happened last week - we went through every one and mine wasn't there - he said they finally showed up Wednesday evening and collected then. Tracking hasn't updated to show this.
So are you saying that after checking that your parcel was missing, which would suggest it was the shop that has lost it and probably why Yodel cannot track it?

Gweeds

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7,954 posts

75 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Freakuk said:
So are you saying that after checking that your parcel was missing, which would suggest it was the shop that has lost it and probably why Yodel cannot track it?
The shop have a list of the parcels collected, and mine was within it. It's left them and then gone astray.

Have been in touch with the retailer and they've requested an investigation, as have I. So there's nothing I can do for 48-72 hours anyway now.

I did my bit and have the proof.

Yellow Lizud

2,786 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Gweeds said:
Shop owner showed me a huge pile of parcels not collected this week and that the same happened last week - we went through every one and mine wasn't there - he said they finally showed up Wednesday evening and collected then. .
Gweeds said:
The shop have a list of the parcels collected, and mine was within it. It's left them and then gone astray.
How did they manage to collect a parcel that wasn't there!?

Gweeds

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7,954 posts

75 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I dropped the parcel off on 20/3. They usually have daily collections.

Yodel attempted collection on 21/3 after the shop as closed. They then came back on the 22/3 and collected, mine was amongst those.

Yodel claim they haven't collected it, the shop has a list of parcels collected on 22/3 and mine is in that list. I went to the shop to check because I guess they've had form of this with Yodel and wanted me to see for myself the parcels that were there waiting for collection yesterday (loads because Yodel haven't collected since last week now.

So my guess is that the depot has a problem, this wasn't scanned in to the van upon collection and because of the problem at the depot they can't locate it now.

Roy the Boy

471 posts

244 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Yellow Lizud said:
Gweeds said:
Shop owner showed me a huge pile of parcels not collected this week and that the same happened last week - we went through every one and mine wasn't there - he said they finally showed up Wednesday evening and collected then. .
Gweeds said:
The shop have a list of the parcels collected, and mine was within it. It's left them and then gone astray.
How did they manage to collect a parcel that wasn't there!?
The 'added' bold may explain it rolleyes Makes sense to me.

mmm-five

12,059 posts

307 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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I've got the same thing with a returned VirginMedia box.

Pre-paid return, taken to local drop-off shop, scanned & receipted.

Tracking message didn't change for 11 months before disappearing and showing as invalid number.

Muzzer79

12,658 posts

210 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Gweeds said:
Thanks.

I do indeed have the receipt. It shows as dropped off on the online tracking as well.
You're covered then thumbup

If it's been lost subsequently - not your problem.

Saleen836

12,178 posts

232 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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As an extra bit of evidence,if the online tracking is showing as dropped off/collected then take a screenshot before this gets changed/removed

carl_w

10,397 posts

281 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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As long as you have the receipt from the drop-off you should be fine. I had similar with a large £350 item I returned to John Lewis. Three weeks after drop-off it still hadn't been scanned in at their warehouse but they gave me my refund anyway.

Gweeds

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7,954 posts

75 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Thanks all - and good call on the screenshot - now done

Collectingbrass

2,688 posts

218 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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A friend of mine used a courier service to return an iphone to Apple for repair under warranty. He has all the collection information but Apple are sating they didn't receive the phone itself. Apple and the courier are denying the claim because he has no evidence that the phone was in the package he deposited into the courier chain.

Why he didn't take it to his nearest Apple Store, or send it via Royal Mail Special Delivery with insurance is beyond me.

carl_w

10,397 posts

281 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Collectingbrass said:
A friend of mine used a courier service to return an iphone to Apple for repair under warranty. He has all the collection information but Apple are sating they didn't receive the phone itself. Apple and the courier are denying the claim because he has no evidence that the phone was in the package he deposited into the courier chain.
Isn't that a different situation? He has chosen the courier therefore the dispute is between the courier and himself. In the OP's case, Yodel was mandated by the shoe company (the return was booked via their portal).

I'm not sure how your friend could prove the phone was in the package? He could take a photo of the phone being put in the package but could then just take it out again before sending it. Same even if was a video.

Gweeds

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7,954 posts

75 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Update - the retailer has just called. Yodel have admitted they collected them now, and have 'lost' them. They are refunding me so all good.

Thanks for help everyone!

QJumper

3,238 posts

49 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Collectingbrass said:
A friend of mine used a courier service to return an iphone to Apple for repair under warranty. He has all the collection information but Apple are sating they didn't receive the phone itself. Apple and the courier are denying the claim because he has no evidence that the phone was in the package he deposited into the courier chain.

Why he didn't take it to his nearest Apple Store, or send it via Royal Mail Special Delivery with insurance is beyond me.
If they're trying to claim that the phone wasn't in the package, then I'd be asking them to show me the empty package, as without that it's immaterial whether the phone was in it or not.

If they've lost the package, then I'd explain to them that the phone is currently in a quantum superposition of both being in the package and not being in the package, until the package is found and checked. Schrodinger's phone, if you will.

Freakuk

4,405 posts

174 months

Wednesday 29th March 2023
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Gweeds said:
Update - the retailer has just called. Yodel have admitted they collected them now, and have 'lost' them. They are refunding me so all good.

Thanks for help everyone!
Good result.

I have to say I did nearly 2 years at Yodel focusing on upgrading their track and trace delivery solution, this encompassed the backend software, front end for customers, separation from a parent system and finally the development and deployment of new hand held scanners.

Every step of the journey of any parcel would be scanned in and out, things rarely just go missing although their distribution centres are huge and something could easily fall off a conveyor into the unknown. However, as with any delivery service a lot of the staff are self employed or work for another small courier firm, i.e. Yodel don't employ everyone, and there is unfortunately an element of theft across the board.