variable speed limit - speeding fine
variable speed limit - speeding fine
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impreza280

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237 posts

172 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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I was driving at 60-70mph on the M25 at 4am on an empty 4 lane carriageway. I've been sent a speeding ticket on the basis that I entered a 50mph variable speed limit.

I was in lane 3 and went under a gantry which had diagonal right arrows to indicate to move to lane 4 above lanes 1, 2 and 3. Above lane 4 was a 50mph limit. There were roadworks approx a mile ahead.

Is there any possibility that I could get out of this, or should I just pay up and take the 3 points?

BertBert

20,867 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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The possibility of getting out of it involves pleading not guilty and having to go to court to make your case alone or with a solicitor. Are you prepared to try that? And no I don't think it gets you off although it'll make a fun debating point here I suspect. Will it be 3 points or a SAC (at 10%+9)?

E-bmw

12,151 posts

175 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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impreza280 said:
Is there any possibility that I could get out of this,
No, by your own admission, you entered a lane with a speed limit which you were exceeding.

Voldemort

7,201 posts

301 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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impreza280 said:
I was in lane 3 and went under a gantry which had diagonal right arrows to indicate to move to lane 4 above lanes 1, 2 and 3. Above lane 4 was a 50mph limit.
Be grateful you aren't being done for driving without due care and attention! Take the 3 points (or awareness course if you're offered it.)

martinbiz

3,637 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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Voldemort said:
impreza280 said:
I was in lane 3 and went under a gantry which had diagonal right arrows to indicate to move to lane 4 above lanes 1, 2 and 3. Above lane 4 was a 50mph limit.
Be grateful you aren't being done for driving without due care and attention! Take the 3 points (or awareness course if you're offered it.)
Taking the OP’s version of events at face value, why do you think DWDC would enter the equation?

Voldemort

7,201 posts

301 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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martinbiz said:
Voldemort said:
impreza280 said:
I was in lane 3 and went under a gantry which had diagonal right arrows to indicate to move to lane 4 above lanes 1, 2 and 3. Above lane 4 was a 50mph limit.
Be grateful you aren't being done for driving without due care and attention! Take the 3 points (or awareness course if you're offered it.)
Taking the OP’s version of events at face value, why do you think DWDC would enter the equation?
Signs indicating to be in lane 4. OP was in lane 3. Obv a camera isn't going to do him for DWDC but if there was a patrol car behind him he could very well have been pulled for a chat/attitude test.

WhiskyDisco

1,201 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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My better half was snapped doing 56 in a 40 on a motorway. I thought she would be looking at a means tested fine of 200% of weekly wages, 4-6 points and/or a small ban, but what she actually has been offered is £100 fine and 3 points.

Accept the points, it's not that bad.

BertBert

20,867 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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Voldemort said:
Signs indicating to be in lane 4. OP was in lane 3. Obv a camera isn't going to do him for DWDC but if there was a patrol car behind him he could very well have been pulled for a chat/attitude test.
Not the slightest chance unless he'd been through several, stayed in the LH lane and made no signs of moving

martinbiz

3,637 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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Voldemort said:
martinbiz said:
Voldemort said:
impreza280 said:
I was in lane 3 and went under a gantry which had diagonal right arrows to indicate to move to lane 4 above lanes 1, 2 and 3. Above lane 4 was a 50mph limit.
Be grateful you aren't being done for driving without due care and attention! Take the 3 points (or awareness course if you're offered it.)
Taking the OP’s version of events at face value, why do you think DWDC would enter the equation?
Signs indicating to be in lane 4. OP was in lane 3. Obv a camera isn't going to do him for DWDC but if there was a patrol car behind him he could very well have been pulled for a chat/attitude test.
Rubbish, the arrows are there to indicate to move across to another lane which the OP did, once the lane is closed it will be enforced by a Red Cross, the OP had committed no other offence except exceeding the speed limit in the open lane

BertBert

20,867 posts

234 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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martinbiz said:
Rubbish, the arrows are there to indicate to move across to another lane which the OP did, once the lane is closed it will be enforced by a Red Cross, the OP had committed no other offence except exceeding the speed limit in the open lane
We don't know that do we. What about if he had bald tyres, no Mot, no tax, no insurance, DUI, etc. A myriad of possibilities.

martinbiz

3,637 posts

168 months

Tuesday 25th April 2023
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BertBert said:
martinbiz said:
Rubbish, the arrows are there to indicate to move across to another lane which the OP did, once the lane is closed it will be enforced by a Red Cross, the OP had committed no other offence except exceeding the speed limit in the open lane
We don't know that do we. What about if he had bald tyres, no Mot, no tax, no insurance, DUI, etc. A myriad of possibilities.
Right.....ok I assume that's tongue in cheek, but you left out the possibility that he may have had a blood stained axe in the car as well....... in fact even a body still warm