Speeding ticket in Spain
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kashn

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194 posts

217 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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I have received a speeding ticket with a hire car in Spain. It’s in Spanish but it looks like I was doing 100kmh in a 80 zone. What would happen if I didn’t pay it? Do they have jurisdiction in the U.K. and will hiring car in Spain be problematic in the future if I don’t?

Grumps.

15,892 posts

57 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Whataguy

1,091 posts

101 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Grumps. said:
Thanks for that great link - lucky I didn't wash my hire car on the quiet street or leave the radio switched on in a petrol station! There are some crazy fines in Spain for things I did not know about despite going there for a while.

Grumps.

15,892 posts

57 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Whataguy said:
Grumps. said:
Thanks for that great link - lucky I didn't wash my hire car on the quiet street or leave the radio switched on in a petrol station! There are some crazy fines in Spain for things I did not know about despite going there for a while.
And for driving with your arm resting out the window, or giving driving lessons.

I also think Germany has some crazy rules as well.



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kashn

Original Poster:

194 posts

217 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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I was just more wondering what would happen if I ignored the fine?

PastelNata

4,419 posts

221 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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kashn said:
I was just more wondering what would happen if I ignored the fine?
I got a speeding fine from Spain in 2019 and paid it - got a 50% discount for doing so quickly. Less hassle to just do so. No points on UK license obvs because there is no link.

You may find that the rental company wants a fee for providing your details to the Authorities too and recovers the money from your account.

In my case it was my own car so none of that but BMW Portugal were the intermediaries since the car was still being paid for at the time.

However, if you ignore it, a UK debt collector company may get involved for recovery - especially if the rental company eventually has to pay - and this could affect your credit rating locally. Or, you may get away with it and never hear about it again. You take your chances. smile

Dog Star

17,189 posts

189 months

Sunday 30th April 2023
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Speed ticket from a hire car I would pay.

From my own personal vehicle I’d file it in the bin - or frame it if the infraction was particularly magnificent. Not that you will get them anymore from your own personal vehicle as the DVLA no longer give the RK details. The only “benefit” of Brexit that I’m aware of.

caziques

2,789 posts

189 months

Monday 1st May 2023
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Without evidence I wouldn't pay, and I also wouldn't contact at all.

No real evidence of a speed, no evidence of who the driver was - it could be a scam.

I don't think the fine can be slapped on a credit card.

Personally I would argue about any "fee" added to a credit card, but that's just me.

(Mostly on the principal that the entity adding the fee will have to spend a lot more time arguing about the fee, which they can't add another fee to)


TonyF1

214 posts

73 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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Let’s set aside the tin foil idea of scam, not you, made up to extract money for Brexit or whatever theory is doing the rounds, you almost certainly broke the speed limit and the fine is legit.

Consequences of not paying? You may find the car hire company charge full amount plus additional admin against your card as the T&C will very likely cover this situation. Even if they don’t and assuming you drive regularly in Spain you are always going to be at risk of a random police stop and then you could get some grief. Is it worth the hassle to you? Only you can answer.


P. ONeill

1,455 posts

73 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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kashn said:
I was just more wondering what would happen if I ignored the fine?
Why wouldn’t you pay it?

catso

15,627 posts

288 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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Dog Star said:
Not that you will get them anymore from your own personal vehicle as the DVLA no longer give the RK details. The only “benefit” of Brexit that I’m aware of.
You sure about that?

Not disputing it just I find it hard to believe that we wouldn't give this information to help prosecute our own...

Chris Stott

18,001 posts

218 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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If you’re not coming back to Spain then you may as well ignore it as there’s little they can do to recover it.

If you do come back to Spain, and get stopped, you will probably be in for a bit of a surprise. Spanish speeding fines (and fines in general) increase the longer they aren’t settled.

A friend here just uncovered a €100 fine on a car he sold last summer, that had already increased to €300, and would have increased to €500 within the next week or so if not paid.

As a non resident, you’ll also be required to settle the full amount before the police will let you go on your way.

Dog Star

17,189 posts

189 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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catso said:
You sure about that?

Not disputing it just I find it hard to believe that we wouldn't give this information to help prosecute our own...
Yes I am.

This is why you only see this foreign speeding fine question arising from getting snapped in a hire car.

catso

15,627 posts

288 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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Dog Star said:
catso said:
You sure about that?

Not disputing it just I find it hard to believe that we wouldn't give this information to help prosecute our own...
Yes I am.

This is why you only see this foreign speeding fine question arising from getting snapped in a hire car.
Fair enough though, I suspect probably more down to incompetence rather than our willingness to do it.

Dog Star

17,189 posts

189 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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catso said:
Fair enough though, I suspect probably more down to incompetence rather than our willingness to do it.
No.

The reciprocal agreement ended with Brexit. It’s easy to look these things up…

https://www.politico.eu/article/speeding-ticket-en...

CarbonV12V

1,165 posts

204 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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Dog Star said:
catso said:
Fair enough though, I suspect probably more down to incompetence rather than our willingness to do it.
No.

The reciprocal agreement ended with Brexit. It’s easy to look these things up…

https://www.politico.eu/article/speeding-ticket-en...
I often drive down to Italy and set the odd one off in Switerland or France and never heard a thing. Went up to Amsterdam and then back down through Belgium and Germany earlier this week and set off quite a few this time so long this may be one of the few benefits of Brexit!

Rushjob

2,258 posts

279 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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Dog Star said:
No.

The reciprocal agreement ended with Brexit. It’s easy to look these things up…

https://www.politico.eu/article/speeding-ticket-en...
Except for Spain that is....

They have just negotiated an agreement on the exchange of driving licences for UK holders living in Spain and there's some interesting bits buried in the details of the agreement, one of which is the agreement to exchange information between the two countries to allow the investigation and prosecution of traffic offences

So despite what some think, they will very likely chase you for it as DVLA will be able to provide the Spanish police with your details.

Turbobanana

7,672 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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CarbonV12V said:
I often drive down to Italy and set the odd one off in Switerland or France and never heard a thing. Went up to Amsterdam and then back down through Belgium and Germany earlier this week and set off quite a few this time so long this may be one of the few benefits of Brexit!
Which other international laws do you frequently disregard, just out of curiosity?

Grumps.

15,892 posts

57 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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Rushjob said:
Dog Star said:
No.

The reciprocal agreement ended with Brexit. It’s easy to look these things up…

https://www.politico.eu/article/speeding-ticket-en...
Except for Spain that is....

They have just negotiated an agreement on the exchange of driving licences for UK holders living in Spain and there's some interesting bits buried in the details of the agreement, one of which is the agreement to exchange information between the two countries to allow the investigation and prosecution of traffic offences

So despite what some think, they will very likely chase you for it as DVLA will be able to provide the Spanish police with your details.
Yep, I think that was covered in the link I posted earlier in the thread.

But with regards to other countries, if you change car then that shouldn’t ping up when you go back?

Unless it’s all linked to your name and they pick it up at the border regardless of vehicle?

Rushjob

2,258 posts

279 months

Tuesday 2nd May 2023
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Grumps. said:
Yep, I think that was covered in the link I posted earlier in the thread.
Nope. It isn’t as the article is from 2021 and the Spain UK agreement was finalised in 2023……