NIP received a month ago, but no fine has arrived since?
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edthefed said:
NIP is a legal requirement to serve on the registered keeper.
Speeding is a "summary" offence - generally allowed 6 months from date of offence to issue proceedings against the driver
Yes correct, but thats not really what the OP was asking, for 36 in a 30 he should be expecting a COFP or offer off a course which would normally happen within a few weeks of responding to the NIPSpeeding is a "summary" offence - generally allowed 6 months from date of offence to issue proceedings against the driver
martinbiz said:
Yes correct, but thats not really what the OP was asking, for 36 in a 30 he should be expecting a COFP or offer off a course which would normally happen within a few weeks of responding to the NIP
My wife recently got done in Cheshire and everything happened pretty much by return of post. I don’t know if it’s done deliberately but there was a very limited choice of SAC dates and there’s a 4 mth limit from date of offence.A while ago a colleague got a nip on the m25 for 102 and never heard any more about it.
Sheepshanks said:
My wife recently got done in Cheshire and everything happened pretty much by return of post. I don’t know if it’s done deliberately but there was a very limited choice of SAC dates and there’s a 4 mth limit from date of offence.
A while ago a colleague got a nip on the m25 for 102 and never heard any more about it.
This would be a pleasant outcome A while ago a colleague got a nip on the m25 for 102 and never heard any more about it.
ingenieur said:
Check your license online to see if they've added points to it. I saw that happen with one I was contesting. They put the points on, I said it was in dispute and they took them off. Bizarre.... but it does happen!
Thanks, I hadn’t realised I could do that. Will double check! There are roughly four possible reasons why you've heard nothing
(1) They're just being a bit slow. Eminently possible if it's been a couple of weeks, less likely the longer you don't hear anything.
(2) They've forgotten about you. Nice to think about, but not very likely.
(3) Your reply never reached them. If you do nothing you might get a reminder, or they might go straight to charging you with failure to provide driver details, which carries a penalty of 6 points and an income related fine. You might be able to defend that charge, or you might not.
(4) They got your reply and have sent you an offer of a speed awareness course or fixed which has gone missing in the post. If you do nothing you will eventually get a summons or SJPN for speeding, where the minimum penalty you might receive would be 3 points and £100, or the fine and costs could be significantly higher.
If you want to avoid the outcomes in 3 and 4 it is worth a phone call to the ticket office (Google the number or 101) to check that your reply has been received and whether they have sent you anything in return yet. Especially if you still haven't heard anything in a couple more weeks. Do not rely on the DVLA to tell you what is happening; unless something has gone seriously wrong with procedure they will not just "add points" to your licence without either you actually agreeing to accept a fixed penalty, or a court hearing.
(1) They're just being a bit slow. Eminently possible if it's been a couple of weeks, less likely the longer you don't hear anything.
(2) They've forgotten about you. Nice to think about, but not very likely.
(3) Your reply never reached them. If you do nothing you might get a reminder, or they might go straight to charging you with failure to provide driver details, which carries a penalty of 6 points and an income related fine. You might be able to defend that charge, or you might not.
(4) They got your reply and have sent you an offer of a speed awareness course or fixed which has gone missing in the post. If you do nothing you will eventually get a summons or SJPN for speeding, where the minimum penalty you might receive would be 3 points and £100, or the fine and costs could be significantly higher.
If you want to avoid the outcomes in 3 and 4 it is worth a phone call to the ticket office (Google the number or 101) to check that your reply has been received and whether they have sent you anything in return yet. Especially if you still haven't heard anything in a couple more weeks. Do not rely on the DVLA to tell you what is happening; unless something has gone seriously wrong with procedure they will not just "add points" to your licence without either you actually agreeing to accept a fixed penalty, or a court hearing.
Aretnap said:
Do not rely on the DVLA to tell you what is happening; unless something has gone seriously wrong with procedure they will not just "add points" to your licence without either you actually agreeing to accept a fixed penalty, or a court hearing.
It's just a piece of information to add to the picture. But yes... if they think the matter is settled then they will (did it to me) add the points. I got the points taken off by proving that the matter was still under dispute and they were not added back to my license, which was clean to begin with. First I knew actually was when I did an insurance quote and it told me I hadn't declared some points. It was a while ago so memory possibly fading but it might have been that the insurance company asked me about it after I'd bought the policy. Same difference.
ingenieur said:
It's just a piece of information to add to the picture. But yes... if they think the matter is settled then they will (did it to me) add the points.
Who are "they"?There are only three mechanisms by which an endorsement can be added to your licence:
(1) You are given a conditional offer of a fixed penalty (usually by post, after you've named yourself as the driver). You have to actively signal that you accept the fixed penalty before the endorsement can be applied.
(2) You are given a fixed penalty in person by a police officer, usually one who has just stopped you at the roadside. This is different from a conditional offer in that you will be deemed to have accepted the fixed penalty unless you actively decline it - so if you do nothing you will end up with the points on your licence. The procedure still exists but it is rarely used these days - most forces have used a different system for roadside stops for the last few years. It might have been what happened to you? It's definitely not what's happening to the OP however.
(3) You are prosecuted and convicted by a court. This can happen in your absence without you knowing about it, but you would have to have missed several pieces of mail to be completely unaware.
Aretnap said:
There are roughly four possible reasons why you've heard nothing
(1) They're just being a bit slow. Eminently possible if it's been a couple of weeks, less likely the longer you don't hear anything.
(2) They've forgotten about you. Nice to think about, but not very likely.
(3) Your reply never reached them. If you do nothing you might get a reminder, or they might go straight to charging you with failure to provide driver details, which carries a penalty of 6 points and an income related fine. You might be able to defend that charge, or you might not.
(4) They got your reply and have sent you an offer of a speed awareness course or fixed which has gone missing in the post. If you do nothing you will eventually get a summons or SJPN for speeding, where the minimum penalty you might receive would be 3 points and £100, or the fine and costs could be significantly higher.
If you want to avoid the outcomes in 3 and 4 it is worth a phone call to the ticket office (Google the number or 101) to check that your reply has been received and whether they have sent you anything in return yet. Especially if you still haven't heard anything in a couple more weeks. Do not rely on the DVLA to tell you what is happening; unless something has gone seriously wrong with procedure they will not just "add points" to your licence without either you actually agreeing to accept a fixed penalty, or a court hearing.
A summons!?(1) They're just being a bit slow. Eminently possible if it's been a couple of weeks, less likely the longer you don't hear anything.
(2) They've forgotten about you. Nice to think about, but not very likely.
(3) Your reply never reached them. If you do nothing you might get a reminder, or they might go straight to charging you with failure to provide driver details, which carries a penalty of 6 points and an income related fine. You might be able to defend that charge, or you might not.
(4) They got your reply and have sent you an offer of a speed awareness course or fixed which has gone missing in the post. If you do nothing you will eventually get a summons or SJPN for speeding, where the minimum penalty you might receive would be 3 points and £100, or the fine and costs could be significantly higher.
If you want to avoid the outcomes in 3 and 4 it is worth a phone call to the ticket office (Google the number or 101) to check that your reply has been received and whether they have sent you anything in return yet. Especially if you still haven't heard anything in a couple more weeks. Do not rely on the DVLA to tell you what is happening; unless something has gone seriously wrong with procedure they will not just "add points" to your licence without either you actually agreeing to accept a fixed penalty, or a court hearing.
FP is £100 but that's not the minimum fine (despite what you may read on a .gov website).
Agree that OP should contact the ticket office.
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