Letter from police, need supporting evidence.
Letter from police, need supporting evidence.
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M666 EVO

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1,129 posts

184 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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I've been sent a letter from the BIB claiming my car was in a collision, the date in question is a Monday, I was at work and my car was on the drive.

It asks for supporting evidence but I don't have an in car camera.

No one else has access to the car so it was definitely on the drive. How can I prove this?

the-norseman

15,044 posts

193 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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Any CCTV local? neighbours doorbells etc, also your phone location, Android phones can show location history not sure about iPhone.

Aunty Pasty

786 posts

60 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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I would take a few pictures of the car and send it off. Say they're welcome to have an independent person come to examine the paintwork but at their expense.

They need to prove you were involved, not the other way round. A few pictures should be enough to get them off your back.

ScoobyChris

2,281 posts

224 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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Innocent until proven guilty?

Chris

pavarotti1980

6,008 posts

106 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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M666 EVO said:
I've been sent a letter from the BIB claiming my car was in a collision, the date in question is a Monday, I was at work and my car was on the drive.

It asks for supporting evidence but I don't have an in car camera.

No one else has access to the car so it was definitely on the drive. How can I prove this?
Google timeline might help (or similar for the Apple crowd) with showing whereabouts of your mobile phone. Otherwise they would need proof of you being in a collision. Sounds most likely to be a registration misread

alscar

7,961 posts

235 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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Can you prove you were at work on that Monday and mode of transport to get there ?
Neighbours / any cameras at home ?
If none of the above presume just a decent letter stating the facts perhaps ?

Dingu

4,893 posts

52 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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ScoobyChris said:
Innocent until proven guilty?

Chris
Asking for any supporting evidence he might have is hardly a presumption of guilt. Some people would be able to show the car was there and that information is then helpful to any fact finding around the incident.

geeks

11,048 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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Your work have a door access system that will show your pass letting you in? Assume they would have CCTV of any carparks etc showing your car not there?

Grumps.

16,844 posts

58 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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Also ask them what colour the car is.

We had a plate cloned and after calling the police and told them it was a different colour to the other car, it all went away.

For now at least.

qwerty360

277 posts

67 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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Talk to them...

Photos of car, statement that car was parked at home, evidence that you were at address blah (work). Could be a misread, could be a cloned plate;





Loads here will complain about the police sending you a letter to inquire about allegations your vehicle was in a collision.

Others will complain if the police refuse to investigate allegations they make about another vehicle hitting them to the level they desire (using others loosely, as I am fairly sure a good chunk are the same people just looking for a reason to rant about policing).




A letter and you replying not me with photos showing your undamaged car and evidence that you (and if possible your car) weren't anywhere near where the collision occured so couldn't have been involved is a lot cheaper and easier for everyone (inc you) than sending police officers to visit you, probably in the early hours dragging you out of bed (need to catch you before you go to work) to look at the car and ask the same questions in person...

NMNeil

5,860 posts

72 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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ScoobyChris said:
Innocent until proven guilty?

Chris
Exactly, it's up to the accuser to offer proof of guilt, not the accused to offer proof of innocence.

matchmaker

8,953 posts

222 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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NMNeil said:
ScoobyChris said:
Innocent until proven guilty?

Chris
Exactly, it's up to the accuser to offer proof of guilt, not the accused to offer proof of innocence.
Being asked to prove a negative!

Hedgedhog

1,559 posts

118 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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Where was the collision and how far away is that from where you live?

Vasco

18,009 posts

127 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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Hedgedhog said:
Where was the collision and how far away is that from where you live?
Surely, all that is irrelevant. It doesn't really matter if it was 100 yards or 100 miles, the point is he is innocent anyway - unless they can prove otherwise.

Unreal

8,832 posts

47 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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M666 EVO said:
I've been sent a letter from the BIB claiming my car was in a collision, the date in question is a Monday, I was at work and my car was on the drive.

It asks for supporting evidence but I don't have an in car camera.

No one else has access to the car so it was definitely on the drive. How can I prove this?
Just write back and say that you weren't involved in a collision.

r3g

3,750 posts

46 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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M666 EVO said:
I've been sent a letter from the BIB claiming my car was in a collision, the date in question is a Monday, I was at work and my car was on the drive.

It asks for supporting evidence but I don't have an in car camera.

No one else has access to the car so it was definitely on the drive. How can I prove this?
1. file the letter in the bin.
2. carry on with your life.

If the police had evidence, you'd have known about it. They don't. It's a fishing exercise. It's what they do. Definitely do not engage with them and absolutely do not go down to the station to "help us with our enquiries". Their questioning is designed so that you end up incriminating yourself, which is exactly what they want so that they can charge or caution you and close the case without having to do any investigation work. See 1. and 2.

PhilboSE

5,739 posts

248 months

Wednesday 21st June 2023
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I got a similar letter once. I thought it was going to be a pain to prove my innocence. I called the contact on the letter and explained the car has never been within 200 miles of the location but i would struggle to prove it.

They said that they only had a partial registration and had just picked me as a best guess. I never heard anything more but I was a bit miffed that the letter implied I had a serious case to answer as opposed to something entirely speculative.

Nibbles_bits

1,942 posts

61 months

Thursday 22nd June 2023
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Vasco said:
Hedgedhog said:
Where was the collision and how far away is that from where you live?
Surely, all that is irrelevant. It doesn't really matter if it was 100 yards or 100 miles, the point is he is innocent anyway - unless they can prove otherwise.
Of course it's relevant. If the OP was at work and the collision happened in Timbuktu, can't have been them.

Their proof is a vehicle with a matching/similar registration.

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Nibbles_bits

1,942 posts

61 months

Thursday 22nd June 2023
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r3g said:
M666 EVO said:
I've been sent a letter from the BIB claiming my car was in a collision, the date in question is a Monday, I was at work and my car was on the drive.

It asks for supporting evidence but I don't have an in car camera.

No one else has access to the car so it was definitely on the drive. How can I prove this?
1. file the letter in the bin.
2. carry on with your life.

If the police had evidence, you'd have known about it. They don't. It's a fishing exercise. It's what they do. Definitely do not engage with them and absolutely do not go down to the station to "help us with our enquiries". Their questioning is designed so that you end up incriminating yourself, which is exactly what they want so that they can charge or caution you and close the case without having to do any investigation work. See 1. and 2.
If you do go to the station, don't forget your tin foil hat

Rough101

2,955 posts

97 months

Thursday 22nd June 2023
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I don’t recommend attending, I do recommend calling and giving the police your story and denying it.

Something similar happened to an elderly relative, they had a quick look at the undamaged vehicle and moved on.