Hit up the rear whilst stationary…
Hit up the rear whilst stationary…
Author
Discussion

Turn7

Original Poster:

25,274 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
At a T junction last night….

Cars driveable but not pretty.

Have put a claim in with direct line , my insurer and have all his details.

What’s the likely affect on me for this ?

TheDrownedApe

1,589 posts

78 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
Eh?

your car will get repaired/replaced and i suspect an AMC will bombard you with options for a temporary car.

Do you not know this process?

trickywoo

13,557 posts

252 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
Turn7 said:
What’s the likely affect on me for this ?
You’ll have to declare it for insurance renewals for the next five years and despite it not being your fault you’ll almost certainly pay more than if it never happened.

Zetec-S

6,607 posts

115 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
trickywoo said:
You’ll have to declare it for insurance renewals for the next five years and despite it not being your fault you’ll almost certainly you might pay more than if it never happened.
FWIW, Mrs ZS had an at fault accident a few years back, minor damage to the other vehicle but hers was written off (£6k Fiesta). There was no noticeable increase in her premium.

Turn7

Original Poster:

25,274 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
trickywoo said:
Turn7 said:
What’s the likely affect on me for this ?
You’ll have to declare it for insurance renewals for the next five years and despite it not being your fault you’ll almost certainly pay more than if it never happened.
As I suspected ….
That’s just unfair though, even if I’m unsurprised.

RoadToad84

903 posts

56 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
Zetec-S said:
FWIW, Mrs ZS had an at fault accident a few years back, minor damage to the other vehicle but hers was written off (£6k Fiesta). There was no noticeable increase in her premium.
I used to work for one of the major underwriting firms. A non fault accident regardless of injury, would never incur a loading. Not to say it never happens, but it shouldn't adversely affect your premium.

cuprabob

17,954 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
A few years back this happened to me. The other driver, who admitted fault, was insured with Direct Line. I notified my insurance company but Direct Line took care of everything. They agreed to have my car repaired at the garage of my choice and provided a hire car whilst mine was being repaired. Despite needing to declare the accident for the next 5 years, I never noticed and significant increase in insurance premiums.

Dingu

4,893 posts

52 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
Turn7 said:
trickywoo said:
Turn7 said:
What’s the likely affect on me for this ?
You’ll have to declare it for insurance renewals for the next five years and despite it not being your fault you’ll almost certainly pay more than if it never happened.
As I suspected ….
That’s just unfair though, even if I’m unsurprised.
1) Tricky doesn’t really know what they are talking about.
2) It’s not unfair if there is an impact, it will be due to people being more likely to have a fault claim after having a non fault one. So if anything it’s actually fair despite the perception.


So it might affect it, although you have an easy way to compare prices from the majority of the market to minimise/avoid this.

trickywoo

13,557 posts

252 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
RoadToad84 said:
I used to work for one of the major underwriting firms. A non fault accident regardless of injury, would never incur a loading. Not to say it never happens, but it shouldn't adversely affect your premium.
Why bother asking the question, seems a waste of everyone’s time if that is the case.

I’d expect if you end up having more than one it would make a noticeable difference.

trickywoo

13,557 posts

252 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
RoadToad84 said:
I used to work for one of the major underwriting firms. A non fault accident regardless of injury, would never incur a loading. Not to say it never happens, but it shouldn't adversely affect your premium.
I just ran a comparison for a £1,500 no injury non-fault claim, bog standard car and circumstances, and one with no accidents and the no accidents cheapest quote was just under 5% lower than the one non-fault comparison.

There were also a lot more quotes near the cheapest for no accidents where the spread between the cheapest 5 for one non-fault was a lot bigger.

Grumps.

16,833 posts

58 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
trickywoo said:
You’ll have to declare it for insurance renewals for the next five years and despite it not being your fault you’ll almost certainly pay more than if it never happened.
From my experiences in similar situations, this is bks.

PorkInsider

6,350 posts

163 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
Turn7 said:
At a T junction last night….

Cars driveable but not pretty.

Have put a claim in with direct line , my insurer and have all his details.

What’s the likely affect on me for this ?
Not massively relevant, but you could have gone straight to the other party's insurer instead of your own. They'd be keen to look after you with a replacement vehicle, etc, to avoid all the cost escalation they'd likely see from a claim coming via your own insurer.

Grumps.

16,833 posts

58 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
PorkInsider said:
Turn7 said:
At a T junction last night….

Cars driveable but not pretty.

Have put a claim in with direct line , my insurer and have all his details.

What’s the likely affect on me for this ?
Not massively relevant, but you could have gone straight to the other party's insurer instead of your own. They'd be keen to look after you with a replacement vehicle, etc, to avoid all the cost escalation they'd likely see from a claim coming via your own insurer.
On the few occasions this has happened, we have always just gone straight to our insurers, given them all the details and had the car repaired with no increase in premiums at the following renewal as they have recouped their costs from the third party.


coldel

9,998 posts

168 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
Turn7 said:
As I suspected ….
That’s just unfair though, even if I’m unsurprised.
I parked a car up on my road. It was there for two days, then got hit whilst parked by a skip lorry driving down the road.

It was caught on camera, we put in the claim, following year my insurers added circa 5% to my premium due to the claim (they declared the increase to me).

Fairness has nothing to do with insurance...profiteering most certainly does!

JagYouAre

600 posts

192 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
Grumps. said:
On the few occasions this has happened, we have always just gone straight to our insurers, given them all the details and had the car repaired with no increase in premiums at the following renewal as they have recouped their costs from the third party.
Similar experience to me. The only 'accident' I have ever been involved with was when someone drove into my car while it was parked. The driver took full responsibility, I informed my insurers (seafarer related), who liaised with his insurers (big red telephone related). Mangled bumper was fixed, non fault claim, no noticeable effect on my premium since then despite me needing to declare it until, I think, next year. In fact I think it actually went down the following year!

There's no real way to tell what will happen to your premiums until you actually start plugging the details in and getting quotes. Anything else is just finger in the wind stuff.

RoadToad84

903 posts

56 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
trickywoo said:
I just ran a comparison for a £1,500 no injury non-fault claim, bog standard car and circumstances, and one with no accidents and the no accidents cheapest quote was just under 5% lower than the one non-fault comparison.

There were also a lot more quotes near the cheapest for no accidents where the spread between the cheapest 5 for one non-fault was a lot bigger.
The aggregator sites will be less accurate than going direct to a broker. The algorithms they use are very black and white and will fall over with very little encouragement.

trickywoo

13,557 posts

252 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
Grumps. said:
trickywoo said:
You’ll have to declare it for insurance renewals for the next five years and despite it not being your fault you’ll almost certainly pay more than if it never happened.
From my experiences in similar situations, this is bks.
What is? That you don't need to declare it or that you will almost certainly have to pay more?

Why does everyone have to be so rude?

RoadToad84

903 posts

56 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
PorkInsider said:
Not massively relevant, but you could have gone straight to the other party's insurer instead of your own. They'd be keen to look after you with a replacement vehicle, etc, to avoid all the cost escalation they'd likely see from a claim coming via your own insurer.
Not necessarily the case. I was knocked off my pushbike a few weeks ago. Rang the driver's insurer directly and they didn't want to know at all. I was only after having the costs of my bike repairs covered.

It later turned out I'd broken my neck, so I got a solicitor involved.

Turn7

Original Poster:

25,274 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
PorkInsider said:
Turn7 said:
At a T junction last night….

Cars driveable but not pretty.

Have put a claim in with direct line , my insurer and have all his details.

What’s the likely affect on me for this ?
Not massively relevant, but you could have gone straight to the other party's insurer instead of your own. They'd be keen to look after you with a replacement vehicle, etc, to avoid all the cost escalation they'd likely see from a claim coming via your own insurer.
Bloke wasn’t going to even get out the car….
He gave all his details but sat alomost in shock in the car.

I never thought about going his , surely my lot will chase his for payment ?

Turn7

Original Poster:

25,274 posts

243 months

Tuesday 27th June 2023
quotequote all
Also, am I likely to have to pay my excess on a non fault ?