Motorway van - covered lens
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fourstardan said:
As usual I was hovering on speed limit about 78ish and come across a van.
The speed limit in the UK has been 70mph since 1965.If you were "hovering about 78" you take your chances and it's no use moaning if you get caught.
Hopefully you will be OK.
Be more careful in future.
Being wound up by plod parking camera vans on m-way overbridges etc seems perfectly reasonable to me, it p*sses me off too!
Why? Two reasons; firstly the overwhelming majority of people speeding on a motorway are posing, in real terms, very little danger and their speed is highly unlikely to cause an accident. If there were ‘tailgating camera’ vans or ‘driving like a tw@t in general’ camera vans that’d be great, but speed alone is an incredibly poor metric to base motorway enforcement on (but happens to be awfully profitable). And secondly, and I’m sure those responsible are fully aware of this, it creates a needless hazard, because the first thing everybody does on seeing the b*stard thing is brake! The risk that causes is probably significantly greater than the risks caused by the majority of crazy, evil people getting snapped doing 85 or whatever on the safest type of roads that we have! FFS!
Why? Two reasons; firstly the overwhelming majority of people speeding on a motorway are posing, in real terms, very little danger and their speed is highly unlikely to cause an accident. If there were ‘tailgating camera’ vans or ‘driving like a tw@t in general’ camera vans that’d be great, but speed alone is an incredibly poor metric to base motorway enforcement on (but happens to be awfully profitable). And secondly, and I’m sure those responsible are fully aware of this, it creates a needless hazard, because the first thing everybody does on seeing the b*stard thing is brake! The risk that causes is probably significantly greater than the risks caused by the majority of crazy, evil people getting snapped doing 85 or whatever on the safest type of roads that we have! FFS!
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 8th July 14:21
fourstardan said:
As usual I was hovering on speed limit about 78ish and come across a van.
The poxy thing was about two junctions from variable limit cameras on the M3, it just winds me up.
Anyway the camera poking out looked covered up, was this a figment of my imagination or normal?
I always hover around 75 as 78 gets you nowhere faster.The poxy thing was about two junctions from variable limit cameras on the M3, it just winds me up.
Anyway the camera poking out looked covered up, was this a figment of my imagination or normal?
Having said that, i wouldn't chance it, especially on the M3 so would stick to around 70.
Southerner said:
Being wound up by plod parking camera vans on m-way overbridges etc seems perfectly reasonable to me, it p*sses me off too!
Why? Two reasons; firstly the overwhelming majority of people speeding on a motorway are posing, in real terms, very little danger and their speed is highly unlikely to cause an accident. If there were ‘tailgating camera’ vans or ‘driving like a tw@t in general’ camera vans that’d be great, but speed alone is an incredibly poor metric to base motorway enforcement on (but happens to be awfully profitable). And secondly, and I’m sure those responsible are fully aware of this, it creates a needless hazard, because the first thing everybody does on seeing the b*stard thing is brake! The risk that causes is probably significantly greater than the risks caused by the majority of crazy, evil people getting snapped doing 85 or whatever on the safest type of roads that we have! FFS!
That rather assumes that exceeding the speed limit is an offence concerned with danger.Why? Two reasons; firstly the overwhelming majority of people speeding on a motorway are posing, in real terms, very little danger and their speed is highly unlikely to cause an accident. If there were ‘tailgating camera’ vans or ‘driving like a tw@t in general’ camera vans that’d be great, but speed alone is an incredibly poor metric to base motorway enforcement on (but happens to be awfully profitable). And secondly, and I’m sure those responsible are fully aware of this, it creates a needless hazard, because the first thing everybody does on seeing the b*stard thing is brake! The risk that causes is probably significantly greater than the risks caused by the majority of crazy, evil people getting snapped doing 85 or whatever on the safest type of roads that we have! FFS!
Edited by Southerner on Saturday 8th July 14:21
But it's not. There is no requirement of any danger to prosecute for the offence.
It's an offence rooted in compliance, because the limit can exist for multiple reasons, not just safety.
The obvious answer to your second point is to make them covert if you are going to use them for enforcement.
If danger is likely to present it is more likely to do so from circumventing compliance than simply complying.
Wacky Racer said:
The speed limit in the UK has been 70mph since 1965.
If you were "hovering about 78" you take your chances and it's no use moaning if you get caught.
Hopefully you will be OK.
Be more careful in future.
Doesn't that stagnation at 70mph for the last 58 years indicate that it's outdated? After all, would the speed limit in 1907 still have been relevant in 1965?If you were "hovering about 78" you take your chances and it's no use moaning if you get caught.
Hopefully you will be OK.
Be more careful in future.
General European limit is 81mph (130km/h). But perhaps we should buck that trend and reduce the limit to 60mph or less?
Southerner said:
Being wound up by plod parking camera vans on m-way overbridges etc seems perfectly reasonable to me, it p*sses me off too!
Why? Two reasons; firstly the overwhelming majority of people speeding on a motorway are posing, in real terms, very little danger and their speed is highly unlikely to cause an accident. If there were ‘tailgating camera’ vans or ‘driving like a tw@t in general’ camera vans that’d be great, but speed alone is an incredibly poor metric to base motorway enforcement on (but happens to be awfully profitable). And secondly, and I’m sure those responsible are fully aware of this, it creates a needless hazard, because the first thing everybody does on seeing the b*stard thing is brake! The risk that causes is probably significantly greater than the risks caused by the majority of crazy, evil people getting snapped doing 85 or whatever on the safest type of roads that we have! FFS!
Your clattering of the keyboard suggests you believe they are there purely to detect excess speed?Why? Two reasons; firstly the overwhelming majority of people speeding on a motorway are posing, in real terms, very little danger and their speed is highly unlikely to cause an accident. If there were ‘tailgating camera’ vans or ‘driving like a tw@t in general’ camera vans that’d be great, but speed alone is an incredibly poor metric to base motorway enforcement on (but happens to be awfully profitable). And secondly, and I’m sure those responsible are fully aware of this, it creates a needless hazard, because the first thing everybody does on seeing the b*stard thing is brake! The risk that causes is probably significantly greater than the risks caused by the majority of crazy, evil people getting snapped doing 85 or whatever on the safest type of roads that we have! FFS!
Edited by Southerner on Saturday 8th July 14:21
bigothunter said:
Wacky Racer said:
The speed limit in the UK has been 70mph since 1965.
If you were "hovering about 78" you take your chances and it's no use moaning if you get caught.
Hopefully you will be OK.
Be more careful in future.
Doesn't that stagnation at 70mph for the last 58 years indicate that it's outdated? After all, would the speed limit in 1907 still have been relevant in 1965?If you were "hovering about 78" you take your chances and it's no use moaning if you get caught.
Hopefully you will be OK.
Be more careful in future.
General European limit is 81mph (130km/h). But perhaps we should buck that trend and reduce the limit to 60mph or less?
Plus there are too many f
king idiots around.bigothunter said:
Doesn't that stagnation at 70mph for the last 58 years indicate that it's outdated? After all, would the speed limit in 1907 still have been relevant in 1965?
General European limit is 81mph (130km/h). But perhaps we should buck that trend and reduce the limit to 60mph or less?
Be careful what you wish for, stretch of the M1 past Sheffield is always set to 60mph apparently it assists with Air quality. Speed cameras there too. General European limit is 81mph (130km/h). But perhaps we should buck that trend and reduce the limit to 60mph or less?
Jamescrs said:
Be careful what you wish for, stretch of the M1 past Sheffield is always set to 60mph apparently it assists with Air quality. Speed cameras there too.
Surely we can go one better and make it a permanent 50 limit? Just like the A127. I avoid that fiasco like the plague and take my business elsewhere. They can stick their f
king ridiculous limits where the sun doesn't shine 
bigothunter said:
Jamescrs said:
Be careful what you wish for, stretch of the M1 past Sheffield is always set to 60mph apparently it assists with Air quality. Speed cameras there too.
Surely we can go one better and make it a permanent 50 limit? Just like the A127. I avoid that fiasco like the plague and take my business elsewhere. They can stick their f
king ridiculous limits where the sun doesn't shine 
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