Need To Clone Car Key
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bad company

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21,344 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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My son is going through a very messy divorce. He owns his car but his wife has it and the keys. Her lawyer told her to return the car but she hasn’t done so.

How difficult would it be to clone the keys so he can get his car back?

Maybe I should be asking this on the dark web.

bad company

Original Poster:

21,344 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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EmailAddress said:
Depends what it is
It’s a Ford truck, he lives in the USA.

Nigel_O

3,576 posts

241 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Surely if he doesn’t have the keys, he can’t clone them. If keys could be cloned without the original, car theft would be rampant…

bad company

Original Poster:

21,344 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Nigel_O said:
Surely if he doesn’t have the keys, he can’t clone them. If keys could be cloned without the original, car theft would be rampant…
Keys can be cloned without the original, that’s how they get stolen. Car theft is indeed rampant but in this case it’ll be legal albeit difficult. My son can prove ownership of the car.

HD Adam

5,155 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Nigel_O said:
Surely if he doesn’t have the keys, he can’t clone them. If keys could be cloned without the original, car theft would be rampant…
Manufacturers in the USA keep a copy of the key programming linked to the VIN number.

If you go to a Ford dealer, have the VIN & have proof of ownership (Title in your name), they can clone you a key.

bad company

Original Poster:

21,344 posts

288 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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HD Adam said:
Nigel_O said:
Surely if he doesn’t have the keys, he can’t clone them. If keys could be cloned without the original, car theft would be rampant…
Manufacturers in the USA keep a copy of the key programming linked to the VIN number.

If you go to a Ford dealer, have the VIN & have proof of ownership (Title in your name), they can clone you a key.
He’s calling Ford today. Hope that’s right and that he has the VIN number.

Tommo87

5,365 posts

135 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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HD Adam said:
Manufacturers in the USA keep a copy of the key programming linked to the VIN number.

If you go to a Ford dealer, have the VIN & have proof of ownership (Title in your name), they can clone you a key.
He will have to sign a waiver pretending he has lost the keys. Which gets recorded.


chrisch77

874 posts

97 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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But if the wife still has the original keys what's going to stop her doing the same thing to take the truck again....Until he takes the vehicle to the dealer to have the original keys deleted from the vehicle.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

208 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Tell the dealer you think the keys have been stolen and get them to remove the old keys and program you a new set.

bad company

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Thursday 20th July 2023
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chrisch77 said:
But if the wife still has the original keys what's going to stop her doing the same thing to take the truck again....Until he takes the vehicle to the dealer to have the original keys deleted from the vehicle.
She didn’t take the truck. There was an agreement made through the lawyers that she could keep the truck for 6 months following the separation. That was up on 1 July but she hasn’t returned it.

I very much doubt that she’d take it back, that’d be theft. Maybe he could fit an immobiliser.

Sir Bagalot

6,874 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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chrisch77 said:
But if the wife still has the original keys what's going to stop her doing the same thing to take the truck again....Until he takes the vehicle to the dealer to have the original keys deleted from the vehicle.
Because the dealer or a locksmith can code her keys out

Red9zero

10,252 posts

79 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Sir Bagalot said:
chrisch77 said:
But if the wife still has the original keys what's going to stop her doing the same thing to take the truck again....Until he takes the vehicle to the dealer to have the original keys deleted from the vehicle.
Because the dealer or a locksmith can code her keys out
Just had that with our Mazda CX5. My wife lost her key and Mazda were going to remove the lost key and my key from the cars system and recode two new keys in. Easy money for them, but it is to stop anyone finding the lost key and using it to steal the car. Luckily, my wife found her key the morning we were due to go to the dealer.

Grumps.

16,833 posts

58 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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He could always just use the key to the house he must still have and get the spare if needed.

No need for stealth tactics.

martinbiz

3,635 posts

167 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Grumps. said:
He could always just use the key to the house he must still have and get the spare if needed.

No need for stealth tactics.
How do you, me or anyone on here know the OP's son's personal situation, maybe his ex has moved out and has another place, could be a hundred different reasons. You do have a habit of posting lots of unhelpful utter bo***cks on here

Grumps.

16,833 posts

58 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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martinbiz said:
Grumps. said:
He could always just use the key to the house he must still have and get the spare if needed.

No need for stealth tactics.
How do you, me or anyone on here know the OP's son's personal situation, maybe his ex has moved out and has another place, could be a hundred different reasons. You do have a habit of posting lots of unhelpful utter bo***cks on here
Lots of what if’s there, so back at cha.


martinbiz

3,635 posts

167 months

Thursday 20th July 2023
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Grumps. said:
martinbiz said:
Grumps. said:
He could always just use the key to the house he must still have and get the spare if needed.

No need for stealth tactics.
How do you, me or anyone on here know the OP's son's personal situation, maybe his ex has moved out and has another place, could be a hundred different reasons. You do have a habit of posting lots of unhelpful utter bo***cks on here
Lots of what if’s there, so back at cha.
Ehhhhhh.....?