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Aydogflipper

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436 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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I think I know the answer to this question but thought I would ask and see what the general consensus is.

Approaching a junction with poor visibility to the left. Car in front sets off to the right, with him on the move I am focusing on checking that it's clear to the left. Once I confirm its clear to the left, I set off and hit the back of the car thay had set off but was now stationary in the middle of the road.

I checked back my dashcam footage, he sets off, then stops suddenly and he goes into reverse before we make contact.

Pretty certain it will be a 'my fault' Claim for this one but seeing what people's opinions are on the situation. He said he missed a gear but it looks clear that he was going the wrong way (diversion in place) so stopped and was going to reverse back to go a different way. Why you'd do it on a blind junction I don't know but there you go.

Suppose I'm hoping for a slight chance that the insurance companies recognise his dodgy manoeuvre but I guess at best it will be a 50/50.

Cheers.

sixor8

7,715 posts

290 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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These are usually cut and dried your fault if you hit some body in front of you. However, if you have dashcam evidence that he was in reverse gear, it may not be 100% yours. Depends on insurance company's opinion unfortunately. scratchchin

Pistonsquirter

377 posts

61 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Reversed into you with video footage seems like a their fault claim to me..

lost in espace

6,464 posts

229 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Well done for having a dashcam.

Aydogflipper

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436 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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He went into reverse, how much he moved though is quite minimal. Just a very strange manoeuvre to pull where he did.

Thanks for the input.

E-bmw

12,121 posts

174 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Just my 2p.

The fact that they went into reverse won't help them, but if there is no/minimal movement, then I am sorry but 50/50 may be the best outcome you may get.

Aydogflipper

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436 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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That's my thoughts too unfortunately. Appreciate your input.

OutInTheShed

12,911 posts

48 months

Tuesday 25th July 2023
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Aydogflipper said:
He went into reverse, how much he moved though is quite minimal. Just a very strange manoeuvre to pull where he did.

Thanks for the input.
I hope no one was hurt?

I drove a car with reverse next to 6th for a long time, then drove a mate's car with reverse next to first.
I got hooted when I was about to pull away from some lights!
I got away with just embarrassment. Lucky!

From what you say, I get the impression you don't feel 100% blameless?
Dashcam footage has a tendency to show the dashcam owner 'could have done better'.

It's why we have insurance.

Jamescrs

5,826 posts

87 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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The thing is even if it goes 50/50 it's still a claim on your policy to declare for the next number of years and may affect your no claims in the same way.

My point being there's no point worrying about it as the outcome for you is the same either way.

Petrus1983

10,742 posts

184 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Phone your insurance company and say there maybe a crash for cash case and can you send the dash cam footage - they'll review it and decide if there's a case to answer. Your NCB bonus is just a part of how renewals are calculated - another part is how much was paid out. So if you can get to a 50/50 or it turns non-fault it certainly helps.

Aydogflipper

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436 posts

188 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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OutInTheShed said:
I hope no one was hurt?

I drove a car with reverse next to 6th for a long time, then drove a mate's car with reverse next to first.
I got hooted when I was about to pull away from some lights!
I got away with just embarrassment. Lucky!

From what you say, I get the impression you don't feel 100% blameless?
Dashcam footage has a tendency to show the dashcam owner 'could have done better'.

It's why we have insurance.
It was all rather slow speed, passenger of the other vehicle jumped out and complained of a sore neck instantly, I've some back ache now but otherwise all OK.

I guess it's the emotion of the situation, I have a range of feelings going on at the moment I suppose.


Aydogflipper

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436 posts

188 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Jamescrs said:
The thing is even if it goes 50/50 it's still a claim on your policy to declare for the next number of years and may affect your no claims in the same way.

My point being there's no point worrying about it as the outcome for you is the same either way.
You're correct, I do have protected no claims, but as you say, still a claim to declare no matter the outcome.

I suppose once I've had chance to speak to a human (I hope) at my insurer, I can relax a little.

Aydogflipper

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436 posts

188 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Petrus1983 said:
Phone your insurance company and say there maybe a crash for cash case and can you send the dash cam footage - they'll review it and decide if there's a case to answer. Your NCB bonus is just a part of how renewals are calculated - another part is how much was paid out. So if you can get to a 50/50 or it turns non-fault it certainly helps.
I've already sent the footage through, I want to highlight that fact as it stinks a bit to me. Good shout.

fourstardan

6,163 posts

166 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Insurer will run the fraud checks if its cash for crash so just report it with the supporting evidence.


Byker28i

83,319 posts

239 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Aydogflipper said:
It was all rather slow speed, passenger of the other vehicle jumped out and complained of a sore neck instantly, I've some back ache now but otherwise all OK.

I guess it's the emotion of the situation, I have a range of feelings going on at the moment I suppose.
Sounds like a scam, crash for cash type then.

Aydogflipper

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436 posts

188 months

Wednesday 26th July 2023
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Well, to conclude the thread. Spoke to my insurer who have allocated full blame on myself. I explained the situation and provided footage. They do accept what I stated but ultimately laid full responsibility at my door.

Is what it is and not worth the battle. We move on. Thanks all.

GasEngineer

2,118 posts

84 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Aydogflipper said:
Well, to conclude the thread. Spoke to my insurer who have allocated full blame on myself. I explained the situation and provided footage. They do accept what I stated but ultimately laid full responsibility at my door.

Is what it is and not worth the battle. We move on. Thanks all.
Did they explain to you why they are not pursuing your cash for crash claim?

Slamming into reverse and instantly claiming a sore neck has all the hallmarks.

Zarco

20,123 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Pistonsquirter said:
Reversed into you with video footage seems like a their fault claim to me..
Sounds like the OP was driving forward at the same time though scratchchin

Seems to me like 50/50 would be fair.


the-norseman

15,039 posts

193 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Lets see the video.

Hammersia

1,564 posts

37 months

Thursday 27th July 2023
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Petrus1983 said:
Phone your insurance company and say there maybe a crash for cash case and can you send the dash cam footage - they'll review it and decide if there's a case to answer. Your NCB bonus is just a part of how renewals are calculated - another part is how much was paid out. So if you can get to a 50/50 or it turns non-fault it certainly helps.
That's quite a leap, the tone of the OP was

1) Driver in front realised diversion was in place
2) OP would have hit driver in front even if he hadn't reversed
3) Passenger in front is a chancer (the adrenaline of a real accident generally disguises muscle pain, throwing up after a few minutes is a more genuine reaction).