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Stev8s

Original Poster:

346 posts

205 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Daughters car failed MOT for rear fog light not working issue is it is a complete LED unit quite common on this vehicle and nobody has any stock managed to source one on an online auction site but delivery due date seems to b a bit flaky basically another 10+ days is this sort of a failure deemed illegal to drive as MOT runs out in a couple of days.
Seems a bit harsh as not expecting any fog soon lol just trying to see if there is any way round until a replacement arrives

Cockaigne

2,797 posts

41 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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scrap yard, borrow one off someone else? refurb the existing one, can't imagine too hard to solder in a new led.

BertBert

20,851 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Stev8s said:
is this sort of a failure deemed illegal to drive as MOT runs out in a couple of days.
As we have debated many times, illegality to drive because of a fault and illegality to drive because of no MoT are not directly related.

Practically speaking driving around with as duff fog light is very low risk of prosecution. Driving around with no MoT (having failed one) is probably quite a low risk of prosecution. Depends on your (duaghter's) view of risk of prosecution and the consequences.

BertBert

20,851 posts

233 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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And just to add, I have seen (actually had) an insurance policy in the past that stipulated that the car needed to have an MoT (in the circumstances where it legally needed one). I think we concluded that they probably don't exist anymore and also that it was probably a condition the ins co couldn't insist on. So if you do choose to drive without an Mot worth a quick check of the policy on the offchance.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,692 posts

257 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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BertBert said:
And just to add, I have seen (actually had) an insurance policy in the past that stipulated that the car needed to have an MoT (in the circumstances where it legally needed one). I think we concluded that they probably don't exist anymore and also that it was probably a condition the ins co couldn't insist on. So if you do choose to drive without an Mot worth a quick check of the policy on the offchance.
Or easier, just don't drive without an MOT.

Riley Blue

22,854 posts

248 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Your daughter's car might ,stress 'might', get pinged by ANPR before you can fit the replacement unit; it's a risk you (and she) will have to take but a fail is a fail just like it was on my Fiesta last week for a none working brake light even though the other two were shining brightly.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,692 posts

257 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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As said, maybe fit an external temporary light (like we sometimes fit to imports)


InitialDave

14,254 posts

141 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Riley Blue said:
Your daughter's car might ,stress 'might', get pinged by ANPR before you can fit the replacement unit; it's a risk you (and she) will have to take but a fail is a fail just like it was on my Fiesta last week for a none working brake light even though the other two were shining brightly.
Based on my experience and others, they won't flag it by default, only if someone specifically runs a check for the status.

For my part, yes, I'd drive it for a couple of days until I got the replacement part in.

Stev8s

Original Poster:

346 posts

205 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Thanks for all the replies thought LED were more reliable what happened to the days you popped down to Halfords for a bulb the car is a 2016 VW beetle did have a quick look when up on ramp apparently common issue as there is no protection from rear wheel so gets hammered with all the crap kicked up fingers crossed arrives soon

48k

16,167 posts

170 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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When does the existing MoT run out?

Super Sonic

11,929 posts

76 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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I have been pulled for no MOT. It comes up on the anpr. It was a £85 fine although this was 10-15 years ago, so may have gone up. You don't get any points on your license. My mum once drove around for two months sans MOT and didn't get pulled so I guess I was unlucky.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,692 posts

257 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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48k said:
When does the existing MoT run out?
In a couple of days hehe

996Keef

435 posts

113 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Best to book the mot a month in advance , you will get 13 months if it passes so nothing lost and plenty of time to sort it for free retest.

Pain though as you say. I always do a bulb check before presenting. Weirdly I seem to have a habit of blowing number plate bulbs on the way to the test station.

Sebring440

3,049 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Riley Blue said:
Your daughter's car might ,stress 'might', get pinged by ANPR
Why would it get "pinged"? It's got a valid MOT. (For a couple of days.)

Sebring440

3,049 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Stev8s said:
Seems a bit harsh as not expecting any fog soon
Yes, very harsh. You'd have thought the MOT tester would have checked the weather forecast before making such decisions.

nuts

Little Pete

1,825 posts

116 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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Sebring440 said:
Yes, very harsh. You'd have thought the MOT tester would have checked the weather forecast before making such decisions.

nuts
laugh

siremoon

246 posts

121 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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Stev8s said:
Thanks for all the replies thought LED were more reliable what happened to the days you popped down to Halfords for a bulb the car is a 2016 VW beetle did have a quick look when up on ramp apparently common issue as there is no protection from rear wheel so gets hammered with all the crap kicked up fingers crossed arrives soon
LED units are more reliable. That doesn't mean they never fail though.

Riley Blue

22,854 posts

248 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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Sebring440 said:
Riley Blue said:
Your daughter's car might ,stress 'might', get pinged by ANPR
Why would it get "pinged"? It's got a valid MOT. (For a couple of days.)
That had not been revealed at the time typed my comment.

cashmax

1,470 posts

262 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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I think the answer is to find a decent garage for your MOT's.

stevemcs

9,909 posts

115 months

Thursday 31st August 2023
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cashmax said:
I think the answer is to find a decent garage for your MOT's.
How does that work then ? The fog light is a requirement and it doesn’t work so it’s a fail ? Are you suggesting find one that does bent mot’s ? If so how does that help when they miss something else