New anti-braking camera

[Cotty]

Anyone else heard about these, any thoughts.

"The new devices, which have been successfully trialled in Spain, will look to fine drivers who attempt to slow down to avoid penalties.
Oftentimes when drivers are faced with a speed camera, they will brake suddenly before the camera to abide by rules and avoid getting snapped".
https://www.gbnews.com/lifestyle/drivers-warned-an...

[Retroman]

Along with the seatbelt / mobile cameras proposed i have no problems with this one since none of them will impact me.

But if people drove lawfully at all times, there would be no incentive for these things.

I imagine people will brake before the anti braking camera, then once past the speed camera will just speed up again regardless.

[Cotty]

Retroman said:

But if people drove lawfully at all times, there would be no incentive for these things.

But where is the fun in that .

[cirian75]

Cotty said:

Anyone else heard about these, any thoughts.

"The new devices, which have been successfully trialled in Spain, will look to fine drivers who attempt to slow down to avoid penalties.
Oftentimes when drivers are faced with a speed camera, they will brake suddenly before the camera to abide by rules and avoid getting snapped".
https://www.gbnews.com/lifestyle/drivers-warned-an...

Designed to catch out people who are not locals so don't know the local limit changes by heart.

[Zetec-S]

Article is just clickbait to generate outrage with it's core readership, nothing in it suggests there are plans to introduce this technology in the UK any time soon.

Surely average speed cameras achieve the same thing anyway?

[FunkyGibbon]

Zetec-S said:

Surely average speed cameras achieve the same thing anyway?

You would have thought so, but the number of people who don't seem to know this and belt past and then brake for the yellow camera.

[C5_Steve]

Having read up on them a bit, they're basically just mini average speed zones so not new tech at all really. They don't issue a fine if you brake sharply (which would be ridiculous), they track your slow down and then subsequent speed up before and after a fixed speed camera.

[Evanivitch]

Cotty said:

Anyone else heard about these, any thoughts.

"The new devices, which have been successfully trialled in Spain, will look to fine drivers who attempt to slow down to avoid penalties.
Oftentimes when drivers are faced with a speed camera, they will brake suddenly before the camera to abide by rules and avoid getting snapped".
https://www.gbnews.com/lifestyle/drivers-warned-an...

If you can catch someone massively decelerating on a clear, open stretch of road then I think that's a valid case for driving without due care and attention.

[BertBert]

Just curious how that works. I assume it infers the speed prior to the normal cam from the amount of braking it somehow detects.
Why not just point another speed camera before the one being braked for?

Interesting to see whether it would actually get UK type approval

But reading the article it looks like it's a longer range speed cam.

[Cotty]

BertBert said:

Why not just point another speed camera before the one being braked for?

That was my thought unless they are trying to catch people transitioning between a national speed limit road and a 30mph village

[Wackywoo105]

Evanivitch said:

If you can catch someone massively decelerating on a clear, open stretch of road then I think that's a valid case for driving without due care and attention.

I'm not condoning speeding but if you are spotting speed cameras and slowing down for them you are clearly paying attention.

[Evanivitch]

Wackywoo105 said:

Evanivitch said:

If you can catch someone massively decelerating on a clear, open stretch of road then I think that's a valid case for driving without due care and attention.

I'm not condoning speeding but if you are spotting speed cameras and slowing down for them you are clearly paying attention.

Hence the lack of "due care" if you're having to stamp on the brakes to do it.

https://www.police.uk/advice/advice-and-informatio...

[Vasco]

Perhaps people should drive within the limits......

[Yes, I know, far too revolutionary]

[danashby]

This is just pure stupidity and clickbaiting from gbeebies. There is nothing suggesting that these will be rolled out in the UK, these kind of articles are meant to keep people angry over nothing.

I however would welcome red light cameras, as number of red light jumpers seems to be on the rise.

[Mr Miata]

Don’t average speed cameras solve this?

[C5_Steve]

Mr Miata said:

Don’t average speed cameras solve this?

As per my comment above, they are literally mini average-speed cameras over a small distance.

[Hammersia]

Retroman said:

Along with the seatbelt / mobile cameras proposed i have no problems with this one since none of them will impact me.

But if people drove lawfully at all times, there would be no incentive for these things.

I imagine people will brake before the anti braking camera, then once past the speed camera will just speed up again regardless.

Could be solved with a preceeding anti braking camera ahead of the anti braking camera.

[RSTurboPaul]

Evanivitch said:

Wackywoo105 said:

Evanivitch said:

If you can catch someone massively decelerating on a clear, open stretch of road then I think that's a valid case for driving without due care and attention.

I'm not condoning speeding but if you are spotting speed cameras and slowing down for them you are clearly paying attention.

Hence the lack of "due care" if you're having to stamp on the brakes to do it.

https://www.police.uk/advice/advice-and-informatio...

I thought speed cameras were about reducing risk to others at accident blackspots - and if they are reducing speed as intended, however that occurs, surely they are working correctly?

It would seem hard to convict someone for 'excessive braking' (which the clickbait article seems to be discussing, going from the comments in this thread) - how would an external party know whether they were paying attention and just reducing time spent at lower speeds by braking later, or whether they were zoned out and panic breaking at the last minute?

This also assumes that speed cameras are clearly signposted and reflectively stickered, not hidden behind overgrown foliage or behind gantry signs...

[Heaveho]

I had high hopes for this, but now it's turned out not to be aimed at halfwits who come to a stop at roundabouts when there's nothing there, or people who dab the brakes endlessly because they're too close to the car in front, it's clearly a waste of time.

[MustangGT]

Wackywoo105 said:

Evanivitch said:

If you can catch someone massively decelerating on a clear, open stretch of road then I think that's a valid case for driving without due care and attention.

I'm not condoning speeding but if you are spotting speed cameras and slowing down for them you are clearly paying attention.

Not necessarily. Had one in front of me, travelling at about 50mph in a NSL DC. Slammed on the brakes for a camera van.........