Speed limit sign up the wrong way around
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The road that approaches the village I live in is 2 miles long, dead straight and has no houses or junctions on it.
The authorities appear to have put the sign up the wrong way around. Where it used to say NSL it now says 50. Conversely the other side was a 50 and now it shows a white disc with black stripe.
The other end of the road is still signed as NSL.
It's pretty clear the sign is wrong. I'm wondering what the legality of enforcing this limit is.
Additionally there are a couple of new 30 limits (A1101) where it was a 50 or 60 which appear to be instead of fixing the road. Nobody takes any notice of them whatsoever. Two houses on the section that used to be a 50 but well back from the road. Clearly these can be enforced even if they can't be justified.
The whole system smacks of chaos and corruption - in terms of limits to save backsides rather than lives.
As the areas around the 30s are deteriorating fast I'm guessing this whole A road will be down to 30, then 20, then 10, followed by a requirement for a man with a red flag and eventual abandonment.
The authorities appear to have put the sign up the wrong way around. Where it used to say NSL it now says 50. Conversely the other side was a 50 and now it shows a white disc with black stripe.
The other end of the road is still signed as NSL.
It's pretty clear the sign is wrong. I'm wondering what the legality of enforcing this limit is.
Additionally there are a couple of new 30 limits (A1101) where it was a 50 or 60 which appear to be instead of fixing the road. Nobody takes any notice of them whatsoever. Two houses on the section that used to be a 50 but well back from the road. Clearly these can be enforced even if they can't be justified.
The whole system smacks of chaos and corruption - in terms of limits to save backsides rather than lives.
As the areas around the 30s are deteriorating fast I'm guessing this whole A road will be down to 30, then 20, then 10, followed by a requirement for a man with a red flag and eventual abandonment.
I would fear the sign is enforceable as installed on going past it, just as it's a viable excuse for going through the 50 at NSL after it says NSL in error, however unlikely it would be to actually do you for it.
Have they done anything else like cleared weeds, cut branches back, narrow drainage trench to ditch etc...could have been a rushed closure thing overnight, or just had a break and lost track of job if not apprentice going unsupervised.
CDP said:
Where it used to say NSL it now says 50. Conversely the other side was a 50 and now it shows a white disc with black stripe.
The other end of the road is still signed as NSL.
It's pretty clear the sign is wrong. I'm wondering what the legality of enforcing this limit is.
You wonder "what the legality of enforcing this limit is"? Seriously?The other end of the road is still signed as NSL.
It's pretty clear the sign is wrong. I'm wondering what the legality of enforcing this limit is.
It's just kids that have flipped the sign around! (Rotated on the post).
See it all the time.
Sebring440 said:
CDP said:
Where it used to say NSL it now says 50. Conversely the other side was a 50 and now it shows a white disc with black stripe.
The other end of the road is still signed as NSL.
It's pretty clear the sign is wrong. I'm wondering what the legality of enforcing this limit is.
You wonder "what the legality of enforcing this limit is"? Seriously?The other end of the road is still signed as NSL.
It's pretty clear the sign is wrong. I'm wondering what the legality of enforcing this limit is.
It's just kids that have flipped the sign around! (Rotated on the post).
See it all the time.
NFT said:
I would fear the sign is enforceable as installed on going past it, just as it's a viable excuse for going through the 50 at NSL after it says NSL in error, however unlikely it would be to actually do you for it.
Have they done anything else like cleared weeds, cut branches back, narrow drainage trench to ditch etc...could have been a rushed closure thing overnight, or just had a break and lost track of job if not apprentice going unsupervised.
Utterly clueless.
In a village near me that has a 30 limit, a new 20 sign appeared one day.
Nobody knew who installed it, wasn't the council, there were a few vocal 'speed kills' residents that were suspected but it was a proper sized pukka looking sign, it took the council ages to get it replaced.
Not sure how that might affect the legality of the actual 30 limit? given the signage was wrong but there is also a 30 painted on the road which the trickster didn't go as far as repainting.
Certainly took sign-spinning to a new level.
Nobody knew who installed it, wasn't the council, there were a few vocal 'speed kills' residents that were suspected but it was a proper sized pukka looking sign, it took the council ages to get it replaced.
Not sure how that might affect the legality of the actual 30 limit? given the signage was wrong but there is also a 30 painted on the road which the trickster didn't go as far as repainting.
Certainly took sign-spinning to a new level.
Conflicting signs for the same stretch of road.
Which is correct?
Contact the Council/Highways to clarify. I assume they would have documentation to specify that stretch of road’s speed limit. TRO etc.
As for legality I don’t know. But signage not meeting legal specs and TRO might mitigate in any speeding cases?
In my area in Wales some new speed signs have been sprayed ( graffiti style) to obscure whether 20 or 30.
As it is a speed boundary change from a definite 30 I assume it obscures a 20. A couple also have an unsprayed 20 on the other side of the road so safe to assume 20.
You need eyes everywhere in Wales now!
Which is correct?
Contact the Council/Highways to clarify. I assume they would have documentation to specify that stretch of road’s speed limit. TRO etc.
As for legality I don’t know. But signage not meeting legal specs and TRO might mitigate in any speeding cases?
In my area in Wales some new speed signs have been sprayed ( graffiti style) to obscure whether 20 or 30.
As it is a speed boundary change from a definite 30 I assume it obscures a 20. A couple also have an unsprayed 20 on the other side of the road so safe to assume 20.
You need eyes everywhere in Wales now!
Edited by sospan on Sunday 5th November 13:51
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