Lorry parking in residential street?
Lorry parking in residential street?
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NordicCrankShaft

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1,913 posts

137 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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What's the crack with lorries parking on residential streets? Seems someone somewhere in the street parks a lorry right on the corner of a sharp turn, massively reduces visibility for cars coming either way, at one pint there were two one untaxed but hasn't been there for weeks now. This one however doesn't move at all, the vans and whatnot age just about tolerable but lorries? What is wrong with people and on top of that he's parked it like a pratt!

Are they allowed like cars and vans as long as taxed and it'd?

the-norseman

14,997 posts

193 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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I would imagine they are, is it just a tractor unit without trailer? There is a house round the corner from me that owns a horse box 18t wagon and they park it on the street.

NordicCrankShaft

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1,913 posts

137 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Nah, it's some Iveco thing.

Caddyshack

13,626 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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NordicCrankShaft said:
Nah, it's some Iveco thing.
They meant - is it just the lorry bit that pulls the big trailer (tractor unit) or a full lorry with big trailer on the back.

Iveco is a Ford brand that make all sorts of lorries from small 3.5t up to big tractor units (that become articulated lorries when you add a big trailer)

Caddyshack

13,626 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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A quick google says:


It is an offence for a goods vehicle to park illegally or to cause an obstruction, but it is not necessarily illegal to park on the highway in a residential area. Control of parking on local roads is a matter for local traffic authorities

H6Nathan

220 posts

117 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Short answer is no.

If the truck has an Operator License disc (blue/ green/ orange) in the window then it is a requirement of the Operators License that the vehicle is parked at the registered Operating Centre overnight - specifically to prevent drivers regularly parking trucks at home.

You can search the O license number on the disc to find out the company details and operating centres.

Certain trucks (recovery?) may be excluded from this, but in general it’s a bit naughty and something the Traffic Commissioner would be interested to know about. A note on the windscreen to that effect would probably make the problem go away.

If it’s a private vehicle then it’s out of scope of the Operator License system and I’m not up to speed on that.


H6Nathan

220 posts

117 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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‘Care should be taken to ensure drivers avoid taking in-scope vehicles home at night, as it may cause neighbours to complain. If the vehicle is normally parked there without it being an authorised operating centre (note that a residential street would not normally be considered suitable), you could risk action against your licence’

https://logistics.org.uk/compliance-and-advice/roa...

the-norseman

14,997 posts

193 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Post some pics

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,656 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Caddyshack said:
Iveco is a Ford brand
Not that it matters, but IVECO is the industrial vehicle company of FIAT. (Many years ago Ford did have a tie up to manufacture Cargo Trucks at Langley, but this relationship is long dissolved).



Silvanus

6,904 posts

45 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Caddyshack said:
NordicCrankShaft said:
Nah, it's some Iveco thing.
They meant - is it just the lorry bit that pulls the big trailer (tractor unit) or a full lorry with big trailer on the back.

Iveco is a Ford brand that make all sorts of lorries from small 3.5t up to big tractor units (that become articulated lorries when you add a big trailer)
It sounds like he might be talking about something like a Luton rather than a tractor unit. I know a few people that would refer to a Luton as a lorry.

Caddyshack

13,626 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Caddyshack said:
Iveco is a Ford brand
Not that it matters, but IVECO is the industrial vehicle company of FIAT. (Many years ago Ford did have a tie up to manufacture Cargo Trucks at Langley, but this relationship is long dissolved).
I was going to add (or used to). I have an Iveco Cargo horse lorry 7.5t and it has Ford on some bits of the paperwork and on quite a few of the parts.

H6Nathan

220 posts

117 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Does it have an O License disc displayed?

48k

16,117 posts

170 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Silvanus said:
Caddyshack said:
NordicCrankShaft said:
Nah, it's some Iveco thing.
They meant - is it just the lorry bit that pulls the big trailer (tractor unit) or a full lorry with big trailer on the back.

Iveco is a Ford brand that make all sorts of lorries from small 3.5t up to big tractor units (that become articulated lorries when you add a big trailer)
It sounds like he might be talking about something like a Luton rather than a tractor unit. I know a few people that would refer to a Luton as a lorry.
Luton could be just a van.
A "rigid" is a lorry (that isn't a tractor unit).

First thing to ascertain as others have mentioned is whether it's private or commercial, by looking for the O licence.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,656 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Caddyshack said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Caddyshack said:
Iveco is a Ford brand
Not that it matters, but IVECO is the industrial vehicle company of FIAT. (Many years ago Ford did have a tie up to manufacture Cargo Trucks at Langley, but this relationship is long dissolved).
I was going to add (or used to). I have an Iveco Cargo horse lorry 7.5t and it has Ford on some bits of the paperwork and on quite a few of the parts.
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Must be quite an old box. They made the last JV truck in 1997.

IVECO are massive on the continent. They are still regarded as a second string vehicle over here. Most of the IVECO Ford market share existed in the 7.5 tonne market. This market has dwindled since 1997, after which people need more than a car licence to drive 7.5 tonners.



Silvanus

6,904 posts

45 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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48k said:
Silvanus said:
Caddyshack said:
NordicCrankShaft said:
Nah, it's some Iveco thing.
They meant - is it just the lorry bit that pulls the big trailer (tractor unit) or a full lorry with big trailer on the back.

Iveco is a Ford brand that make all sorts of lorries from small 3.5t up to big tractor units (that become articulated lorries when you add a big trailer)
It sounds like he might be talking about something like a Luton rather than a tractor unit. I know a few people that would refer to a Luton as a lorry.
Luton could be just a van.
A "rigid" is a lorry (that isn't a tractor unit).

First thing to ascertain as others have mentioned is whether it's private or commercial, by looking for the O licence.
Yep I'm aware of the difference but the OPs description is 'some Iveco thing', doesn't really clear up what kind of vehicle it is

rambo19

2,922 posts

159 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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H6Nathan said:
Short answer is no.

If the truck has an Operator License disc (blue/ green/ orange) in the window then it is a requirement of the Operators License that the vehicle is parked at the registered Operating Centre overnight - specifically to prevent drivers regularly parking trucks at home.

You can search the O license number on the disc to find out the company details and operating centres.

Certain trucks (recovery?) may be excluded from this, but in general it’s a bit naughty and something the Traffic Commissioner would be interested to know about. A note on the windscreen to that effect would probably make the problem go away.

If it’s a private vehicle then it’s out of scope of the Operator License system and I’m not up to speed on that.
What about lorries that are away all week from base?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,656 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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rambo19 said:
What about lorries that are away all week from base?
That's what truck stops & proper vehicle laybys are for. yes

Caddyshack

13,626 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Caddyshack said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Caddyshack said:
Iveco is a Ford brand
Not that it matters, but IVECO is the industrial vehicle company of FIAT. (Many years ago Ford did have a tie up to manufacture Cargo Trucks at Langley, but this relationship is long dissolved).
I was going to add (or used to). I have an Iveco Cargo horse lorry 7.5t and it has Ford on some bits of the paperwork and on quite a few of the parts.
thumbup

Must be quite an old box. They made the last JV truck in 1997.

IVECO are massive on the continent. They are still regarded as a second string vehicle over here. Most of the IVECO Ford market share existed in the 7.5 tonne market. This market has dwindled since 1997, after which people need more than a car licence to drive 7.5 tonners.
Not as old as that mine is a 53 plate. Odd. Maybe it is some confusion in the paperwork and some odd parts bin stuff….I think the fuse box lid has Ford on it? I may be imagining more of it…..the mind can play tricks when you believe something.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

31,656 posts

257 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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Caddyshack said:
Not as old as that mine is a 53 plate. Odd. Maybe it is some confusion in the paperwork and some odd parts bin stuff….I think the fuse box lid has Ford on it? I may be imagining more of it…..the mind can play tricks when you believe something.
Aha. Maybe shared parts yes Or maybe, with regard to paperwork, dealer is a Ford & IVECO dealer.


Caddyshack

13,626 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th November 2023
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
Caddyshack said:
Not as old as that mine is a 53 plate. Odd. Maybe it is some confusion in the paperwork and some odd parts bin stuff….I think the fuse box lid has Ford on it? I may be imagining more of it…..the mind can play tricks when you believe something.
Aha. Maybe shared parts yes Or maybe, with regard to paperwork, dealer is a Ford & IVECO dealer.
Yeah, could be that and my mind put 2+2 and made 5.