Possible redress against MOT Test Station
Possible redress against MOT Test Station
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Wings

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5,924 posts

237 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Recently introduced myself to a previously used local garage, requiring that i was seeking a friendly MOT tester. My reason for that introduction being, that twelve months and six thousand miles earlier, the car's Pass MOT certificate, listed just two advisories, being structure corrosion but not significantly reduced, and a slight oil leak.

The latest MOT test resulted in a Test failure, with a Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects), and listing twenty six repair immediately major defects and seven minor repair advisories, with both power steering and brake leaking from the vehicle, resulting in me have to have the vehicle towed home.

Having no brakes and power steering, with their relevant fluids leaking from the vehicle, together with the excessive number and type of defects, four defects covering prescribed area strength of seat belt anchorage etc. etc, left me completely uneasy, to the extent that i am giving some consideration to whether there was some malice involved when carrying out the MOT test.

Not sure if i have any redress against the MOT test station, and if the number of defects and the non driveable is a viable financial repair option.


Caddyshack

13,617 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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I don’t get it?

Are you saying that the MOT station did damage to the car in order to creat failure points OR that the previous MOT missed stuff?

A lot can go wrong in a year, MOt check are getting more thorough and stuff that might have passed before are now picked up….cars do deteriorate.


Vasco

18,009 posts

127 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Wings said:
Recently introduced myself to a previously used local garage, requiring that i was seeking a friendly MOT tester. My reason for that introduction being, that twelve months and six thousand miles earlier, the car's Pass MOT certificate, listed just two advisories, being structure corrosion but not significantly reduced, and a slight oil leak.

The latest MOT test resulted in a Test failure, with a Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects), and listing twenty six repair immediately major defects and seven minor repair advisories, with both power steering and brake leaking from the vehicle, resulting in me have to have the vehicle towed home.

Having no brakes and power steering, with their relevant fluids leaking from the vehicle, together with the excessive number and type of defects, four defects covering prescribed area strength of seat belt anchorage etc. etc, left me completely uneasy, to the extent that i am giving some consideration to whether there was some malice involved when carrying out the MOT test.

Not sure if i have any redress against the MOT test station, and if the number of defects and the non driveable is a viable financial repair option.
So, you've submitted a car for MOT and now want to have a go at the MOT station for failing it with numerous faults.....??

Caddyshack

13,617 posts

228 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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If you are a keen spanner twiddler I expect a lot of the fails can be ticked off quickly and easily.

If not then get a quote from a mechanic that wants the work.

Often the list may look bad but is a repetition of related or same issues.

Maybe post up the fail sheet and tell us what car.

InitialDave

14,240 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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I've bought cars which passed an MOT less than a year previously and been able to fit my entire arm through the holes in structural metal.

Mate had an advisory for corrosion on a brake pipe and it went pop as he drove it away from the test.

Cars can degrade quite a lot in a year, low mileage is little defence against it.

I've only ever had an incorrect fail once, and that's because the tester didn't know the exact regs for a slightly specialist issue, nothing malicious.

I'm afraid I think it's more likely that your car is in a worse state than you believed it was, and the garage have done their job and found the issues.

Have you got under the car and poked and prodded the suspect areas yourself?

vaud

57,641 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Devils advocate mode on...

Why do you need a "friendly MOT tester."?

Alex Z

1,949 posts

98 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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vaud said:
Devils advocate mode on...

Why do you need a "friendly MOT tester."?
To keep him company on a lonely evening?

ConnectionError

2,206 posts

91 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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The fact that you were looking for a friendly MOT tester suggest to me that you knew there were issues and you were hoping they would turn a blind eye.

What you got was an MOT tester doing his job properly.

Is there really cause for complaint?

RSTurboPaul

12,723 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Can you post up a picture of the fail sheet (Reg / reference hidden)?

Simpo Two

90,900 posts

287 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Different testers do seem to have different approaches. My cars always passed their MOT until I started using a particular garage - and then every year my car would fail, and he'd quote a price to fix it. 'Plus the VAT' he'd say with a glint in his little beady eye. One year he came up with a list of faults costing more than the car was worth. So I took it to a different garage and it passed. I suspect Garage One saved the pass quota for his mates and failed the rest.

NFT

1,324 posts

44 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Is the car actually as bad?

I have stopped using one garage because they Failed cars with a long list of things, last car I took needed practically rebuilding according to them, did work myself, finding at every stage it was BS but replacing things as I had bought parts and rented ramp.

I replaced wishbones to find bushings and ball joints without play, rot or separation, cleaned brake lines that only had dried mud on, looking exactly same on rubber fuel hoses underneath it, bearings supposedly needed doing, but was told they didn't on dropping it at another garage, handbrake needed a spot of oil and working on & off a bit as I suspected and asked them to do beforehand, but they said definitely needed new rear calipers, inner sill and subframe rust they stated was excessive and essentially told me was rotten flaked off to a smooth non flexible clean metal layer...

Check it out yourself or have another garage look at it.

RSTurboPaul

12,723 posts

280 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Perhaps mentioning the rough area / location might enable some suggestions as to reliable garages to re-MOT at.

Some Gump

13,009 posts

208 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Or maybe the “nod nod wink wink” approach made them think you were a vosa guy and so failing everything harshly is defence in case you were an inspector?

Flumpo

4,024 posts

95 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Next time, when you introduce yourself and tell them you’re looking for a friendly MOT tester, wink more theatrically.

Any doubts, leave a pack of biscuits and £100 cash next to the locking wheel nut key.

M4cruiser

4,851 posts

172 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Another conclusion is that last year's MoT pass should have been a fail, and in fact you should be seeking out that garage.

Sebring440

3,036 posts

118 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Wings said:
Having no brakes and power steering, with their relevant fluids leaking from the vehicle, together with the excessive number and type of defects,
No one picked up on this yet? No brakes and power steering? And you submitted it for an MOT test? No wonder you were after a "friendly" tester!


NFT

1,324 posts

44 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Sebring440 said:
Wings said:
Having no brakes and power steering, with their relevant fluids leaking from the vehicle, together with the excessive number and type of defects,
No one picked up on this yet? No brakes and power steering? And you submitted it for an MOT test? No wonder you were after a "friendly" tester!
I presumed he submitted it by driving it there with brakes, and on getting a Fail it was without them, and leaking along with power steering?

Pica-Pica

15,888 posts

106 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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‘Residential Landlord seeks friendly MOT tester, for mutual partnership and interesting exchanges of conversations’

Aluminati

2,979 posts

80 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2023
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Most people usually check their car over before submitting for MOT. Which begs the question, are you a complete idiot ?

Fore Left

1,597 posts

204 months

Thursday 23rd November 2023
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Aluminati said:
Most people usually check their car over before submitting for MOT. Which begs the question, are you a complete idiot ?
Most people don't. Most people think the MOT is an annual magical service that keeps their car in tip top condition.