Euro NCAP to mark down cars relying on touchscreens
Euro NCAP to mark down cars relying on touchscreens
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Hammersia

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36 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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Euro NCAP wants more pushbuttons for major functions, otherwise manufacturers will lose points:

https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/car-makers-must...


budgie smuggler

5,912 posts

180 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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Good idea.

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57 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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"Indicators, hazard warning lights, windscreen wipers, horn, and SOS features will have to be controlled by proper switches in order for cars to be granted Euro NCAP’s coveted five star safety rating."

I haven't seen a car where any of these tasks are directly performed via a screen?

Panamax

7,823 posts

55 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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Excellent news.

Banning mobile phones and then sticking an iPad on the dash to control everything is completely absurd.

Hammersia

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EU_Foreigner

2,838 posts

247 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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VAG has demist as buttons so you can quickly get rid of that, whilst on the Tesla that is on the screen.

OutInTheShed

12,774 posts

47 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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Personally, I'd force manufacturers to have the old-style rotary controls for the heater.
turn everything clockwise for max hot air to the screen.

Compared with looking for little buttons to plip-plip through the choices.

They could also get rid of wky delays between pressing the button and 'things happening'.

Also, why do some manufacturers make the wiper controls 'upside down'?

Do they think they are being clever?

J1990

847 posts

74 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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FMOB

1,994 posts

33 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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NCAP Leading from behind.

Bit late to be saying this as the horse has well and truly bolted, buttons are already gone, cost savings spent elsewhere.

This from the Muppets who brought us Active Lane Assist you have turn off every sodding time because the manufacturer gets points for doing this.

Has NCAP outlived its usefulness?

Absolutely, they are now doing more harm than good.

anonymous-user

75 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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Hammersia said:
Euro NCAP wants more pushbuttons for major functions, otherwise manufacturers will lose points:

https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/car-makers-must...
Why care (unless the insurance goes up)
A lot of the stuff that increases the points is an annoyance, a box ticking exercise.
In the past they were relavent, not now .

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 4th March 18:32

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57 months

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Is lane assist compulsory on new cars these days?

fatboy b

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237 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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That’s Tesla fked then rofl

AmitG

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181 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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Some Gump

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207 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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^all euro cars, maybe.

What about when the hordes of chinese ev's flood the cheap end of the market?

donkmeister

11,378 posts

121 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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OutInTheShed said:
Personally, I'd force manufacturers to have the old-style rotary controls for the heater.
turn everything clockwise for max hot air to the screen.

Compared with looking for little buttons to plip-plip through the choices.

They could also get rid of wky delays between pressing the button and 'things happening'.

Also, why do some manufacturers make the wiper controls 'upside down'?

Do they think they are being clever?
Four zone climate control might be interesting with manual valves! hehe

Careful what you wish for, I remember how many people used to struggle with "turn everything to hot, and the windscreen legend, and keep the a/C on"... you would see them driving around wiping furiously with their hand.

Most cars I've had from the last 20 years or so have a singular button that sets everything correctly for demisting . That includes an auxiliary heater so you don't have to wait for the engine to warm up either, hurrah!

Also, some makes have had heated front screens since forever so again, a single button like the one that turns on the rear window and mirror heaters.

You'll have to explain the wiper one - do you mean the legends are printed upside down, or that the direction for on/off is different from what you prefer?

Mr E

22,672 posts

280 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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I dislike some of the functionality buried in screen menus on Teslas

fatboy b said:
That’s Tesla fked then rofl
Hazards are in on a specific button.
Indicators are on the stalk or on the steering wheel on the most recent cars.
Wipers are on the stalk and adjusted via steering wheel multifunction. Unsure where there are on the latest update.
Horn is on the wheel.
Not clear what an “sos” feature is, guess it’s specced somewhere.

It’s the lesser used functions that can be a bit of a fiddle. I’m 18k in and I couldn’t tell you right now how to turn the fogs on. I guess it’s in the lighting augment, but I’d need to take eyes off the road to do it.

John87

1,017 posts

179 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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Mr E said:
Not clear what an “sos” feature is, guess it’s specced somewhere.
Most new cars have an SOS button which will contact emergency services on request and also automatically if the car detects an accident. It transmits the location and connects directly to the control room who can check if any assistance required. Not sure if Teslas have this but I figured it was a legal requirement somewhere

Pica-Pica

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105 months

Monday 4th March 2024
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Pica-Pica

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John87 said:
Mr E said:
Not clear what an “sos” feature is, guess it’s specced somewhere.
Most new cars have an SOS button which will contact emergency services on request and also automatically if the car detects an accident. It transmits the location and connects directly to the control room who can check if any assistance required. Not sure if Teslas have this but I figured it was a legal requirement somewhere
My 2016 F30 BMW has this. I pressed it once by accident/test, and I got a human voice asking what assistance I needed. I had to humbly apologise!