Zac Goldsmith - What on Earth!
Zac Goldsmith - What on Earth!
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Carsie

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938 posts

225 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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My Giddy Aunt! What on earth is this world coming too? there is so much wrong in this world but this warrants the police and the courts attention £££££....

Former environment minister Zac Goldsmith has been banned from driving for a year after he was caught speeding seven times in 2023.

The Conservative peer, 49, broke speed limits in his hybrid electric Volkswagen Golf on London roads in Paddington, Chelsea and Twickenham between April and November last year.

Goldsmith was caught driving at 29mph in a 20mph zone on Chelsea Embankment

In July he drove at 28mph in a 20mph zone near Kensington Gardens.

In May, August and November of the same year, he broke the 40mph limit on the A316 in Twickenham by twice driving at 46mph and once at 47mph.

He was also caught driving at 62mph in a 50mph zone at the M25 intersection with the M3 in December, and at 73mph between junctions 20 and 19 of the M4 in September - breaking a 50mph temporary speed limit.

As District Judge Daniel Sternberg disqualified the Tory environmentalist from driving, he warned that drivers who speed "emit more harmful emissions" even in hybrid and electric cars.

He was also fined £5,500, and ordered to pay a surcharge of £2,000 and costs of £700.

Gets Victor Meldrew coat...... banghead


ImbackYo

495 posts

33 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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Well if it could happen to any c..t, glad it's him or any other mug that gets close to shaping policy.

But it highlights the utter ridiculous issue with 20mph. Its a push to get us all on the bus and little else. It's working though, unfortunately.

Simpo Two

90,845 posts

286 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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Carsie said:
As District Judge Daniel Sternberg disqualified the Tory environmentalist from driving, he warned that drivers who speed "emit more harmful emissions" even in hybrid and electric cars.
I expect a judge to have clearer thinking than that. What makes more emissions - 40mph in fourth gear or 20mph in third gear?

And if we apply District Judge Daniel Sternberg's logic, hybrid and electric cars should be allowed to go faster than IC ones.



Foss62

1,671 posts

86 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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ImbackYo said:
Well if it could happen to any c..t, glad it's him or any other mug that gets close to shaping policy.

But it highlights the utter ridiculous issue with 20mph. Its a push to get us all on the bus and little else. It's working though, unfortunately.
It’s not just 20 limit offences here, if he had stuck to these two it wouldn’t be newsworthy. Presumably he exceeded his 12 points and the 73 in a 50 is not great…
Anyone who manages this tally is clearly driving without paying attention, so not a lot of sympathy from me.

charltjr

460 posts

30 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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Judges generally aren’t stupid. I suspect it was a not very subtle two finger salute to the noted environmentalist.

Mr Tidy

28,952 posts

148 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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I can't say I feel that sympathetic given how many times he was caught, and with 3 points for each offence surely it's inevitable he got a totting up ban?

I got caught for 61 in a temporary 50 limit last year and I'm extra careful now!

119

16,452 posts

57 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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And yet the slapper that is Katie Price carries on regardless.

xx99xx

2,678 posts

94 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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Not sure what the issue is here. Guy gets caught speeding lots of times, ends up with a ban.

You could at least link your source (BBC?) as per the forum rules:

Do not copy and paste articles from newspapers or news sites (this is a breach of their copyright and any such threads will be deleted)

anonymous-user

75 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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Getting caught that many times, what a tool.

It’s not difficult to stick to the limit.

Dave99

185 posts

140 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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I’m sure he can afford a chauffeur for the year.

stanlow45

304 posts

27 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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Did someone say 26 in a 20! I mean what the fking actual fk has happened? Yes if you fail in life you are bitter and you find a public sector job, but usually the eco loons are kept away from any real power and yet now we have ludicrous 20 limits becoming “enforceable” via woke councils like Oxford? These fkers need to be reigned in NOW! Utter fking lunacy. Time to vote Reform!

anonymous-user

75 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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stanlow45 said:
Did someone say 26 in a 20! I mean what the fking actual fk has happened? Yes if you fail in life you are bitter and you find a public sector job, but usually the eco loons are kept away from any real power and yet now we have ludicrous 20 limits becoming “enforceable” via woke councils like Oxford? These fkers need to be reigned in NOW! Utter fking lunacy. Time to vote Reform!
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Chromegrill

1,134 posts

107 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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Kudos to the judge for being aware that EVs can still cause emissions (generally tyre and brake wear).

Ezra

876 posts

48 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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tbh, I'm not sure what the OP's point is here?

If its whether this should be in court, of course it warrants police/court attention. Seven speeding violations is definitely totting territory and a poss ban dictates a court appearance.

If its the relatively small over limit of most of the violations, the speeds were clearly over whatever 'free' excess the local constabulary allow.

If its the low speed limits themselves, neither the police or courts decide those.

I suspect the means based fine & surcharge, plus costs, actually covered the expense of dealing with all these.

So, what's the issue, OP?

NFT

1,324 posts

43 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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(as he disqualified the Tory environmentalist from driving)
District Judge Daniel Sternberg said:
drivers who speed "emit more harmful emissions", even in hybrid and electric cars.
Go on, really give it to him and make it memorable.. rofl

Simpo Two

90,845 posts

286 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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charltjr said:
Judges generally aren’t stupid. I suspect it was a not very subtle two finger salute to the noted environmentalist.
I don't see that speeding has anything to do with the environment; the two are separate issues.

And 'emitting emissions' is tautological.

xx99xx

2,678 posts

94 months

Monday 18th March 2024
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stanlow45 said:
Did someone say 26 in a 20! I mean what the fking actual fk has happened? Yes if you fail in life you are bitter and you find a public sector job, but usually the eco loons are kept away from any real power and yet now we have ludicrous 20 limits becoming “enforceable” via woke councils like Oxford? These fkers need to be reigned in NOW! Utter fking lunacy. Time to vote Reform!
You've heard of the 10% + 2 thing, right? 26 in a 20 exceeds this. So no excuse, no sympathy (especially as the guy clearly has form for not paying attention, lacking any self control etc).


bolidemichael

17,262 posts

222 months

Tuesday 19th March 2024
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What’s both newsworthy and satisfying is seeing the irony of a politician who didn’t oppose the implementation of blanket 20mph limits being caught and penalised for exceeding them. Hoisted by his own petard.

NFT

1,324 posts

43 months

Tuesday 19th March 2024
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Indeed, Mr Sternberg being a bit Judgmental hehe just strengthens the sourness he must feel having passed up his opportunity to fight against 20 limits he so clearly finds inadequate.

Biker 1

8,337 posts

140 months

Tuesday 19th March 2024
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This is the same goldsmith wker who is pushing 'rewilding' on farms instead of growing food. I suppose he doesn't like having tenant farmer peasants with all their mud visible from his country pile.