Warranty claim, consumable component
Warranty claim, consumable component
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essayer

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10,360 posts

218 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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One of my car’s brake cylinders (drums) developed a leak and needed replacement

In leaking it has contaminated the shoes and so both sides need replacing

Warranty will cover the repair but not the shoes. These weren’t due replacement so I wonder if the warranty should be covering those too.

Policy terms don’t mention consequential losses, just that brake friction items are excluded.

Think it’s worth challenging? Not sure what ombudsman etc think. It’s £100 so worth a punt!

Panamax

8,407 posts

58 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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essayer said:
"brake friction items are excluded"
Sounds clear enough to me.

Simpo Two

91,504 posts

289 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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£100 to go to an Ombudsman? (which one?)

spookly

4,375 posts

119 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Depends on what warranty you a relying on.
A brand new manufacturer warranty, then ignoring the warranty, you might be covered under consumer regulations.
Same if you recently bought it used from a dealer.

If this is an aftermarket warranty then you've no hope, as it sounds clear that it isn't covered. An aftermarket warranty only covers whatever it says it covers in the small print. Consumer protection laws often give you some comeback regardless of what warranties say, but enforcing that isn't always that easy.

CoolHands

22,397 posts

219 months

Wednesday 2nd October 2024
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Brake shoes are so cheap I can’t see it’d be worth your time to even bother

Riley Blue

22,961 posts

250 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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Simpo Two said:
£100 to go to an Ombudsman? (which one?)
I took it to mean the cost of the shoes is £100 hence worth a punt to try to get cost recovered.

Evolved

4,064 posts

211 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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The effort and time needed to deal with an ombudsman and associated stress simply wouldn’t be worth it to me to chase £100! It’s chump change.

GasEngineer

2,235 posts

86 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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essayer said:
One of my car’s brake cylinders (drums) developed a leak and needed replacement

In leaking it has contaminated the shoes and so both sides need replacing

Warranty will cover the repair but not the shoes. These weren’t due replacement so I wonder if the warranty should be covering those too.

Policy terms don’t mention consequential losses, just that brake friction items are excluded.

Think it’s worth challenging? Not sure what ombudsman etc think. It’s £100 so worth a punt!
It might be worth another look through the policy terms. Most of those I have seen do mention consequential loss eg the brake fluid in your case.

mcflurry

9,184 posts

277 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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As a compromise could you agree to pay for just the parts, since the marginal cost of labour is negligible?
(e.g. The wheels will already be off etc)

essayer

Original Poster:

10,360 posts

218 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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Yes, am just paying for parts

£100 for two pairs seems a bit steep but it's a main dealer so...


Hol

9,271 posts

224 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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The only bright side I can see is that at some point in your ownership you ‘might’ have needed to replace the worn brake shoes anyway.

Assuming.. that you intend to keep the car for a few miles.

WPA

13,813 posts

138 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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mcflurry said:
As a compromise could you agree to pay for just the parts, since the marginal cost of labour is negligible?
(e.g. The wheels will already be off etc)
They should not be charging labour as it will already be taken apart for the wheel cylinders, the brake shoes will 100% be chargeable as parts only

Aluminati

2,983 posts

82 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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What car in this day and age has drums ?

cuprabob

18,269 posts

238 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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Aluminati said:
What car in this day and age has drums ?
Plenty of modern cars have drums on the rear.

InitialDave

14,376 posts

143 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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WPA said:
They should not be charging labour as it will already be taken apart for the wheel cylinders, the brake shoes will 100% be chargeable as parts only
That would be my position also.

It's effectively free to do the shoes while changing the wheel cylinder, you're already doing all the work.

Simpo Two

91,504 posts

289 months

Thursday 3rd October 2024
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cuprabob said:
Aluminati said:
What car in this day and age has drums ?
Plenty of modern cars have drums on the rear.
I thought drum brakes went out in the 1970s, but seems not: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

E-bmw

12,392 posts

176 months

Friday 4th October 2024
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Simpo Two said:
cuprabob said:
Aluminati said:
What car in this day and age has drums ?
Plenty of modern cars have drums on the rear.
I thought drum brakes went out in the 1970s, but seems not: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Many, many cars still have full drums on the rear and just as many have drum-in-hat handbrakes which are the same thing.