eBay car purchase
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mickythefish

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1,700 posts

27 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Made an offer on a car on eBay. Seller accepted. Sorted out travel etc. just as I am getting the bus the seller cancelled the sale, something I never knew you could.

I going to ring eBay latter but legally I thought I had entered into a legally binding contract?

Sebring440

3,006 posts

117 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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mickythefish said:
Made an offer on a car on eBay. Seller accepted. Sorted out travel etc. just as I am getting the bus the seller cancelled the sale, something I never knew you could.

I going to ring eBay latter but legally I thought I had entered into a legally binding contract?
For items listed in Property and eBay Motors classified listings, bids are considered non-binding. When you bid on an item in these categories, you're expressing a strong interest in buying the seller's item, but no formal purchase contract is created if you're the winning bidder.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/rules-policie...


OutInTheShed

12,686 posts

47 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Is this a classified ad?
If so, ebay won't be interested.

Do you have anything in writing?
In theory you may have a contract, but you are unlikely to get anywhere enforcing it.

pigface1001

56 posts

61 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Why not ask seller why they cancelled?

mickythefish

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Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Sebring440 said:
For items listed in Property and eBay Motors classified listings, bids are considered non-binding. When you bid on an item in these categories, you're expressing a strong interest in buying the seller's item, but no formal purchase contract is created if you're the winning bidder.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/rules-policie...
That us classified advert . And eBay's terms don't trump UK law.

mickythefish

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Wednesday 16th October 2024
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pigface1001 said:
Why not ask seller why they cancelled?
Lol don't you think I have.

Ebay say there is nothing stopping someone canceling a sale even though a contract has formed. It was an auction, I made an offer , accepted. Was on my way to see it and transfer money.

zedx19

3,013 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Is this not along the same sort of lines? Depends if you can be bothered with the time and expense of going through the courts.

KungFuPanda

4,575 posts

191 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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mickythefish said:
Lol don't you think I have.

Ebay say there is nothing stopping someone canceling a sale even though a contract has formed. It was an auction, I made an offer , accepted. Was on my way to see it and transfer money.
There needs to be offer, acceptance and consideration for there to be a valid contract. At the time the contract was cancelled, there had been no consideration. I doubt there’s much you can do about your situation.

OutInTheShed

12,686 posts

47 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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mickythefish said:
pigface1001 said:
Why not ask seller why they cancelled?
Lol don't you think I have.

Ebay say there is nothing stopping someone canceling a sale even though a contract has formed. It was an auction, I made an offer , accepted. Was on my way to see it and transfer money.
Do you think your offer was absolutely binding on you?

If you'd gone and looked and been a little disappointed, would you have quibbled or reduced your offer?
This is what happens so sellers treat 'offers' as hypothetical, until the cash is in hand.

Sometimes buyers agree offers and then never turn up.

Ebay now have a system for offers on auctions, the money is taken as soon as the vendor agrees to accept the offer.
I'd regard that as a done deal.

But here can still be cop-outs, like finding a fault with something which means the seller can't complete the deal.

I've just bought something from ebay, it didn't turn up, I've been refunded.
That's an annoying waste of time, but so is shopping in real shops or whatever.
I just take the view that it works about 98% of the time.

MustangGT

13,608 posts

301 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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I would take the view that you have avoided buying a possible problem car.

mickythefish

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1,700 posts

27 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Yeh only 40 quid in scheme of things but definitely won't use eBay anymore if that is what can happen.

zedx19

3,013 posts

161 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Its hardly an ebay problem, its a time wasting seller problem, doesn't matter what platform you use, you'll still get timewasters.

mickythefish

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Wednesday 16th October 2024
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zedx19 said:
Its hardly an ebay problem, its a time wasting seller problem, doesn't matter what platform you use, you'll still get timewasters.
Other platforms don't have offers and acceptance

0ddball

905 posts

160 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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mickythefish said:
Yeh only 40 quid in scheme of things but definitely won't use eBay anymore if that is what can happen.
40 quid for a car? What was it, a matchbox one?

dundarach

5,890 posts

249 months

Wednesday 16th October 2024
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Look at it the other way, you bid, you get there, it's a pile of crap!

Still want it to be legally binding?

havoc

32,436 posts

256 months

Friday 18th October 2024
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mickythefish said:
zedx19 said:
Its hardly an ebay problem, its a time wasting seller problem, doesn't matter what platform you use, you'll still get timewasters.
Other platforms don't have offers and acceptance
Erm, UK contract law does though.


...and besides, if you'd seen a classified ad and travelled to see the car (y'know, the traditional way of doing things), you'd have been down both time and money.

Timewasters (buyers and sellers) are the biggest frustration in the used car market. Not sure what you can do about it though...

mickythefish

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1,700 posts

27 months

Friday 18th October 2024
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dundarach said:
Look at it the other way, you bid, you get there, it's a pile of crap!

Still want it to be legally binding?
i remember a thread on here where someone bailed out of an ebay sale, was sued and won in court. So not all this not legally binding stuff said on here, and yes i bid to buy. Anyway bought another car,

Simpo Two

90,717 posts

286 months

Friday 18th October 2024
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KungFuPanda said:
mickythefish said:
Lol don't you think I have.

Ebay say there is nothing stopping someone canceling a sale even though a contract has formed. It was an auction, I made an offer , accepted. Was on my way to see it and transfer money.
There needs to be offer, acceptance and consideration for there to be a valid contract. At the time the contract was cancelled, there had been no consideration. I doubt there’s much you can do about your situation.
Why is 'consideration' needed after acceptance? Wouldn't buyer and seller do 'consideration' before (a) making an offer and (b) accepting that offer?

'I've accepted your offer but now I need to go away and consider it and might change my mind'. How useless is that?

Evolved

4,027 posts

208 months

Friday 18th October 2024
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Move on.

havoc

32,436 posts

256 months

Friday 18th October 2024
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Simpo Two said:
Why is 'consideration' needed after acceptance? Wouldn't buyer and seller do 'consideration' before (a) making an offer and (b) accepting that offer?

'I've accepted your offer but now I need to go away and consider it and might change my mind'. How useless is that?
Consideration means some form of payment or deposit (or binding commitment to pay such). Not "do I really need yet another car?" wink