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cerbylondon

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133 posts

216 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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I received 4 NIPs for speeding for the same camera, all within a 8 days of each other. The NIPs were sent to the lease company so I received all for of them around 20 days after each offence.

The camera is on my way to and from work. I was under the impression the speed limit was 40mph, and had I been aware it wasn't, either by the camera flashing or receiving the NIPs sooner, I would have rectified my behaviour.

The camera does not flash and there are no obvious road markings to suggest there is a camera there.

Arrivalist

1,293 posts

13 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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What help are you after?

Patio

1,110 posts

25 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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I'm ready and waiting

What d'ya need?

blueg33

40,939 posts

238 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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If you were not aware that the limit was 40, you need to check the signage is compliant. If it is you need to visit the optician.

AgtLaw is the PH resident motoring lawyer

Arrivalist

1,293 posts

13 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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My Time Machine is broken right now so I think the OP may be snookered.

MikeM6

5,501 posts

116 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Depending on what the limit was, you might get a speed awareness course for one of them and then 3 points for the remaining offences.

Not sure what else you can do really.

Nightmare

5,269 posts

298 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Probably wanting to know if this would give mitigation regards the totting issue which 4 nips may bring (assuming already had SAC)

I don’t really see why this is particularly different from the ‘multiple in a single journey’ issue. As noted, no opportunity to moderate behaviour. That said, if the road is (to an average driver) very obviously a 30, then you would have to convince someone (mags) of this IMO

h0b0

8,675 posts

210 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Gericho

608 posts

17 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Argue that you "inadvertantly" may have exceeded the speed limit because you were not made aware of what the speed limit was. If they argue back saying signage was clear then say you were not aware you had poor eyesight and could not see the signs.

Learn from the best - politicans and lawmakers.

pavarotti1980

5,708 posts

98 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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cerbylondon said:
I received 4 NIPs for speeding for the same camera, all within a 8 days of each other. The NIPs were sent to the lease company so I received all for of them around 20 days after each offence.

The camera is on my way to and from work. I was under the impression the speed limit was 40mph, and had I been aware it wasn't, either by the camera flashing or receiving the NIPs sooner, I would have rectified my behaviour.

The camera does not flash and there are no obvious road markings to suggest there is a camera there.
This might be of some use

https://tfl.gov.uk/fares/contactless-and-oyster-ac...

ozzuk

1,304 posts

141 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Can you give us a google map of the road? My partner recently had a fine for I think 24 in a 20, and said same as you (thought it was 30). We actually drove to the area in question, as soon as we did we saw metal signs next to road and one on the road itself. My suggestion of stopping by specsaver on the way home perhaps wasn't one of my better ideas.


martinbiz

3,574 posts

159 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Gericho said:
Argue that you "inadvertantly" may have exceeded the speed limit because you were not made aware of what the speed limit was. If they argue back saying signage was clear then say you were not aware you had poor eyesight and could not see the signs.

Learn from the best - politicans and lawmakers.
Signage is not required on lots of 30 limit roads

E-bmw

10,981 posts

166 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Nightmare said:
I don’t really see why this is particularly different from the ‘multiple in a single journey’ issue.
What?

Was it on one journey?

No.

It isn't the same.

You're welcome.

martinbiz

3,574 posts

159 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Nightmare said:
Probably wanting to know if this would give mitigation regards the totting issue which 4 nips may bring (assuming already had SAC)

I don’t really see why this is particularly different from the ‘multiple in a single journey’ issue. As noted, no opportunity to moderate behaviour. That said, if the road is (to an average driver) very obviously a 30, then you would have to convince someone (mags) of this IMO
Because 4 tickets on different days is not a continous offence, nothing to do with the opportunuity to modify driving

ghamer

625 posts

169 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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My Mrs did exactly this but x 5 going to new job in one week.I had no idea until brown envelopes began dropping through the letterbox. Luckily for us she is Polish and had polish licence which they are unable to endorse.Cost us a few quid though as we had to pay the fines,fair enough.She hadn't noticed the BIG YELLOW camera on the roadside.ffs

clockworks

6,741 posts

159 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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My lodger got caught 3 times in one week by the same camera on the way home from work, 35 and 36 in a 30.

They had just replaced an older fixed camera (photos from behind, white lines on the road) with a new digital camera that can catch you in both directions.

A few days later, it was a big story in the local media, thousands were caught out.

Megaflow

10,359 posts

239 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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This will be good!

Arrivalist

1,293 posts

13 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Megaflow said:
This will be good!
It’s got potential smile

Pica-Pica

15,153 posts

98 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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clockworks said:
My lodger got caught 3 times in one week by the same camera on the way home from work, 35 and 36 in a 30.

They had just replaced an older fixed camera (photos from behind, white lines on the road) with a new digital camera that can catch you in both directions.

A few days later, it was a big story in the local media, thousands were caught out.
I lost interest after ‘my lodger got caught 3 times in one week by the same camera..’ I was expecting some salacious tale.

the tribester

2,736 posts

100 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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ghamer said:
My Mrs did exactly this but x 5 going to new job in one week.I had no idea until brown envelopes began dropping through the letterbox. Luckily for us she is Polish and had polish licence which they are unable to endorse.Cost us a few quid though as we had to pay the fines,fair enough.She hadn't noticed the BIG YELLOW camera on the roadside.ffs
DVLA will have created a 'ghost' UK driver record with all the convictions on, and totting up would still apply.