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cerbylondon

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133 posts

218 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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I received 4 NIPs for speeding for the same camera, all within a 8 days of each other. The NIPs were sent to the lease company so I received all for of them around 20 days after each offence.

The camera is on my way to and from work. I was under the impression the speed limit was 40mph, and had I been aware it wasn't, either by the camera flashing or receiving the NIPs sooner, I would have rectified my behaviour.

The camera does not flash and there are no obvious road markings to suggest there is a camera there.

Arrivalist

1,597 posts

15 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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What help are you after?

Patio

1,232 posts

27 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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I'm ready and waiting

What d'ya need?

blueg33

42,064 posts

240 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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If you were not aware that the limit was 40, you need to check the signage is compliant. If it is you need to visit the optician.

AgtLaw is the PH resident motoring lawyer

Arrivalist

1,597 posts

15 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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My Time Machine is broken right now so I think the OP may be snookered.

MikeM6

5,556 posts

118 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Depending on what the limit was, you might get a speed awareness course for one of them and then 3 points for the remaining offences.

Not sure what else you can do really.

Nightmare

5,273 posts

300 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Probably wanting to know if this would give mitigation regards the totting issue which 4 nips may bring (assuming already had SAC)

I don’t really see why this is particularly different from the ‘multiple in a single journey’ issue. As noted, no opportunity to moderate behaviour. That said, if the road is (to an average driver) very obviously a 30, then you would have to convince someone (mags) of this IMO

h0b0

8,718 posts

212 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Gericho

608 posts

19 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Argue that you "inadvertantly" may have exceeded the speed limit because you were not made aware of what the speed limit was. If they argue back saying signage was clear then say you were not aware you had poor eyesight and could not see the signs.

Learn from the best - politicans and lawmakers.

pavarotti1980

5,801 posts

100 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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cerbylondon said:
I received 4 NIPs for speeding for the same camera, all within a 8 days of each other. The NIPs were sent to the lease company so I received all for of them around 20 days after each offence.

The camera is on my way to and from work. I was under the impression the speed limit was 40mph, and had I been aware it wasn't, either by the camera flashing or receiving the NIPs sooner, I would have rectified my behaviour.

The camera does not flash and there are no obvious road markings to suggest there is a camera there.
This might be of some use

https://tfl.gov.uk/fares/contactless-and-oyster-ac...

ozzuk

1,332 posts

143 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Can you give us a google map of the road? My partner recently had a fine for I think 24 in a 20, and said same as you (thought it was 30). We actually drove to the area in question, as soon as we did we saw metal signs next to road and one on the road itself. My suggestion of stopping by specsaver on the way home perhaps wasn't one of my better ideas.


martinbiz

3,588 posts

161 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Gericho said:
Argue that you "inadvertantly" may have exceeded the speed limit because you were not made aware of what the speed limit was. If they argue back saying signage was clear then say you were not aware you had poor eyesight and could not see the signs.

Learn from the best - politicans and lawmakers.
Signage is not required on lots of 30 limit roads

E-bmw

11,225 posts

168 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Nightmare said:
I don’t really see why this is particularly different from the ‘multiple in a single journey’ issue.
What?

Was it on one journey?

No.

It isn't the same.

You're welcome.

martinbiz

3,588 posts

161 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Nightmare said:
Probably wanting to know if this would give mitigation regards the totting issue which 4 nips may bring (assuming already had SAC)

I don’t really see why this is particularly different from the ‘multiple in a single journey’ issue. As noted, no opportunity to moderate behaviour. That said, if the road is (to an average driver) very obviously a 30, then you would have to convince someone (mags) of this IMO
Because 4 tickets on different days is not a continous offence, nothing to do with the opportunuity to modify driving

ghamer

625 posts

171 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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My Mrs did exactly this but x 5 going to new job in one week.I had no idea until brown envelopes began dropping through the letterbox. Luckily for us she is Polish and had polish licence which they are unable to endorse.Cost us a few quid though as we had to pay the fines,fair enough.She hadn't noticed the BIG YELLOW camera on the roadside.ffs

clockworks

6,834 posts

161 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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My lodger got caught 3 times in one week by the same camera on the way home from work, 35 and 36 in a 30.

They had just replaced an older fixed camera (photos from behind, white lines on the road) with a new digital camera that can catch you in both directions.

A few days later, it was a big story in the local media, thousands were caught out.

Megaflow

10,458 posts

241 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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This will be good!

Arrivalist

1,597 posts

15 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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Megaflow said:
This will be good!
It’s got potential smile

Pica-Pica

15,330 posts

100 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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clockworks said:
My lodger got caught 3 times in one week by the same camera on the way home from work, 35 and 36 in a 30.

They had just replaced an older fixed camera (photos from behind, white lines on the road) with a new digital camera that can catch you in both directions.

A few days later, it was a big story in the local media, thousands were caught out.
I lost interest after ‘my lodger got caught 3 times in one week by the same camera..’ I was expecting some salacious tale.

the tribester

2,759 posts

102 months

Monday 28th October 2024
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ghamer said:
My Mrs did exactly this but x 5 going to new job in one week.I had no idea until brown envelopes began dropping through the letterbox. Luckily for us she is Polish and had polish licence which they are unable to endorse.Cost us a few quid though as we had to pay the fines,fair enough.She hadn't noticed the BIG YELLOW camera on the roadside.ffs
DVLA will have created a 'ghost' UK driver record with all the convictions on, and totting up would still apply.