Police Spending - No Wonder They’re Not Solving Crimes
Discussion
bad company said:
Dingu said:
An absolute nothing in the grand scheme of the budget. For fools to get angry about.
Really. How many additional police officers could they recruit with that budget?In any case if it helps the police end up more representative and better able to engage with communities where the relationship has broken down due to historic racism or other unfair treatment then it’s probably money well spent and more effective than a handful more frontline staff.
I assume you do want the police to be effective rather than just looking at the volume of officers?
bad company said:
Dingu said:
An absolute nothing in the grand scheme of the budget. For fools to get angry about.
Really. How many additional police officers could they recruit with that budget?Our local illiterate Reform guy is sharing this with glee and suggesting they have another 25 FOI requests in.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1KMEDhosUb/
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1KMEDhosUb/
Reform Guy said:
there another 25 gone in and will post them all in due time, the questions have to be simple and direct, sort and to the point, to expand on this would be a mind field
I'm sure there's other public services that spend more than this on flapjack.Broadly, roles which are ultimately about *preventing* crimes vs the thread title of solving crimes
Where groups are isolated and unsupported by Police, they become vulnerable to exploitation and horrific offences go "unnoticed" (see modern-day slavery prosecutions, sexual exploitation, homophobic, racist offending etc). Whilst many communities just want to see more "Bobbies on the beat", the reality is Policing that way isn't and never has been the most effective way of keeping everyone safe, it just makes a vocal group complacent.
You don't have to go back far to see what a lack of EDI awareness in Policing does, and we continue to feel the impact of that naive way of working
Where groups are isolated and unsupported by Police, they become vulnerable to exploitation and horrific offences go "unnoticed" (see modern-day slavery prosecutions, sexual exploitation, homophobic, racist offending etc). Whilst many communities just want to see more "Bobbies on the beat", the reality is Policing that way isn't and never has been the most effective way of keeping everyone safe, it just makes a vocal group complacent.
You don't have to go back far to see what a lack of EDI awareness in Policing does, and we continue to feel the impact of that naive way of working
thetapeworm said:
Our local illiterate Reform guy is sharing this with glee and suggesting they have another 25 FOI requests in.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1KMEDhosUb/
What is a "mind field"?https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1KMEDhosUb/
Reform Guy said:
there another 25 gone in and will post them all in due time, the questions have to be simple and direct, sort and to the point, to expand on this would be a mind field
I'm sure there's other public services that spend more than this on flapjack.It is interesting how much money can be spent on EDI when all expenditure must be scrutinised to an extraordinary level. However, when reading this I wondered if these were additional duties on existing roles, so no extra money spent for many of those posts.
I hope its effective in doing what it is meant to, but I'm not sure how success is measured in this?
Perhaps £360k is worth it to employ people who can take the time to understand their local communities and individuals?
Given the average cost of a PC is around £55k, I'm not really sure an additional six and a half bobbies who don't give a s
t about anyone else is going to make all the difference in West Yorkshire.
Given the population of the region, that's one officer per 360,000 people
I've forgotten what I'm supposed to be getting angry or not about
Given the average cost of a PC is around £55k, I'm not really sure an additional six and a half bobbies who don't give a s
t about anyone else is going to make all the difference in West Yorkshire.Given the population of the region, that's one officer per 360,000 people
I've forgotten what I'm supposed to be getting angry or not about
Does my head in a bit, my forces intranet is always full of new articles on diversity. I was going to ask if I could write one on how to catch burglars for the site but I suspect my suggestion wouldn’t go down well.
To be fair I considered applying for a DE&I role late last year, mainly because after 28 years shifts are starting to kill me, I do however have no idea at all why the role needed a warranted police officer to do it?
Decided against it because its not really my scene
To be fair I considered applying for a DE&I role late last year, mainly because after 28 years shifts are starting to kill me, I do however have no idea at all why the role needed a warranted police officer to do it?
Decided against it because its not really my scene
ED209 said:
Does my head in a bit, my forces intranet is always full of new articles on diversity. I was going to ask if I could write one on how to catch burglars for the site but I suspect my suggestion wouldn’t go down well.
To be fair I considered applying for a DE&I role late last year, mainly because after 28 years shifts are starting to kill me, I do however have no idea at all why the role needed a warranted police officer to do it?
Decided against it because its not really my scene
Good to hear thoughts from a serving officer.To be fair I considered applying for a DE&I role late last year, mainly because after 28 years shifts are starting to kill me, I do however have no idea at all why the role needed a warranted police officer to do it?
Decided against it because its not really my scene
I have resorted to looking it up, as it's interesting that the prodigy would have used an eggcorn, however the definition of a mindfield is (apparently):
"Your mind basically pictured as a field, when people enter the mindfield, you have the upper hand, basically whooping your opponent to shreds while you get to watch.
I walk through mindfields so watch your head rock"
Not exactly what Reform pacifically meant, I think.
"Your mind basically pictured as a field, when people enter the mindfield, you have the upper hand, basically whooping your opponent to shreds while you get to watch.
I walk through mindfields so watch your head rock"
Not exactly what Reform pacifically meant, I think.
bad company said:
You do realise that is not the salary and the WTE budget required for the postbad company said:
Really. How many additional police officers could they recruit with that budget?
Edit Not that many (precise number incoming)
Edited edit
Total budget of team = £1,069,188
Total cost of non warranted officers = £536,136
Budget cost of PC = £59,844
Reallocation of non-warranted officer budget would provide 8.95 WTE PC's. That would take WYP police officer establishment from 6,128 to 6,136.95 WTE's (May 2024)
Edited by pavarotti1980 on Tuesday 4th February 10:22
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