Police scamera vans now working at night

Police scamera vans now working at night

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Frimley111R

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17,007 posts

248 months

Wednesday 5th February
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I'd seen these a couple of times in the Autumn on my way back from work around Reading/Sonning/Bracknell but saw one again tonight at 6.10pm. It was dark and as usual with these scumbags their camera was hard to spot (impossible in the dark from the front) and facing cars driving along a road with barely any safety issues.

Luckily I came off the roundabout and spotted them first but night time scamera (and I don't mean safety/camera, I mean cameras scamming drivers) is a seemingly new thing for us to get fked over by. What a horrible bunch of people they are.

Somehow sitting outside the two schools and multiple residential roads I also drive through was clearly unimportant.

Lo-Fi

971 posts

84 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Frimley111R said:
I'd seen these a couple of times in the Autumn on my way back from work around Reading/Sonning/Bracknell but saw one again tonight at 6.10pm. It was dark and as usual with these scumbags their camera was hard to spot (impossible in the dark from the front) and facing cars driving along a road with barely any safety issues.

Luckily I came off the roundabout and spotted them first but night time scamera (and I don't mean safety/camera, I mean cameras scamming drivers) is a seemingly new thing for us to get fked over by. What a horrible bunch of people they are.

Somehow sitting outside the two schools and multiple residential roads I also drive through was clearly unimportant.
18.10 is evening, not night. In fact, in most cities it's still rush hour. What's the problem with that?

LosingGrip

8,287 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Frimley111R said:
I'd seen these a couple of times in the Autumn on my way back from work around Reading/Sonning/Bracknell but saw one again tonight at 6.10pm. It was dark and as usual with these scumbags their camera was hard to spot (impossible in the dark from the front) and facing cars driving along a road with barely any safety issues.

Luckily I came off the roundabout and spotted them first but night time scamera (and I don't mean safety/camera, I mean cameras scamming drivers) is a seemingly new thing for us to get fked over by. What a horrible bunch of people they are.

Somehow sitting outside the two schools and multiple residential roads I also drive through was clearly unimportant.
You do realise that they will go to a number of different areas.

We go to collision sites and areas that people have complained about.

Maybe people have complained about speeders down that road and they are doing something about it.

What's the point of going to the same places over and over...better to mix it up and make people think there could be a camera nearby...I'll keep an eye on my speed.

Johnson897210

832 posts

7 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Tax revenue collection is a 24/7 endeavour, personally I’d rather just pay an extra penny on income tax and return to prosecuting the excessive cases rather than taxing everyone doing 35 in a 30 nonsense.

Dingu

4,885 posts

44 months

Wednesday 5th February
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One day you’ll grow up OP

Also, what was wrong with this one you started?
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Greendubber

14,200 posts

217 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Frimley111R said:
I'd seen these a couple of times in the Autumn on my way back from work around Reading/Sonning/Bracknell but saw one again tonight at 6.10pm. It was dark and as usual with these scumbags their camera was hard to spot (impossible in the dark from the front) and facing cars driving along a road with barely any safety issues.

Luckily I came off the roundabout and spotted them first but night time scamera (and I don't mean safety/camera, I mean cameras scamming drivers) is a seemingly new thing for us to get fked over by. What a horrible bunch of people they are.

Somehow sitting outside the two schools and multiple residential roads I also drive through was clearly unimportant.
No one's being scammed though are they.


You know the limit, you know how fast you should be driving, view it as an optional tax that's very easily avoidable rather than nonsensical rants on the internet about people being scammed.

It's like a shop lifter quimming about being caught nicking something.

Johnson897210

832 posts

7 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Dingu said:
One day you’ll grow up OP
And one day it’ll be your turn to pay the tax for doing marginally over a limit that is far too low, probably not legally signposted and changed repeatedly prior to the scam van just to catch you out.

Absolute s quite frankly.

Dingu

4,885 posts

44 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Johnson897210 said:
Dingu said:
One day you’ll grow up OP
And one day it’ll be your turn to pay the tax for doing marginally over a limit that is far too low, probably not legally signposted and changed repeatedly prior to the scam van just to catch you out.

Absolute s quite frankly.
And I’ll be an adult about it unlike some on here who are too immature to take some personal responsibility.

If your observation is that poor what else aren’t you seeing?

Edited by Dingu on Wednesday 5th February 20:12

bergclimber34

1,107 posts

7 months

Wednesday 5th February
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If you had been done by a scam van pointing at a 30 sign as you left a 50mph dual carriageway, literally the most profitable place to put it, rather than near the accident black-spot 2 miles up the road which is why the scam van was there in the first place, you would possibly have some sympathy

Nobody is ever not guilty of speeding in these cases, but occasionally the way they are stationed and located is very much about manufacturing maximum profit, not necessarily just about making sure people slow around accident black spots, which is the ONLY reason they are allowed to be put somewhere anyway, or was.

Hill Hunter

43 posts

194 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Or if the same effort spent monitoring motorists for breaking the law was also spent catching rapists, shop lifters, car thief’s…

Geffg

1,287 posts

119 months

Wednesday 5th February
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It’s the places these are placed that most people have beef about. As has been said if they were placed near schools etc no one would ever complain. But they’re always on good stretches of road, and just as a limit drops to a 30. Yes we should be doing 30 at that point but most people just ease off and so get caught.
I know of a few where I don’t think I’ve ever seen or heard of accidents, wide 2 lane either side road big central reservation and a cemetery on one side see them there often.
We just have to understand motorists give a lot of money and when anyone’s needing extra money they look to motorists.
A lot of money is spent on detecting any infringement possible, just wish they’d spend as much clearing up crime.

Dashnine

1,577 posts

64 months

Wednesday 5th February
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In rural Warwickshire, where blanket 50mph limits are in place on previously 60mph roads for no reason whatsoever, the preferred camera van locations are towards the end of long straights. By the time you’ve exited the corner onto the straight it’s too late and you’re done by their laser and telephoto lens.

No accident blackspots, difficult junctions, schools, old folks homes for miles in either direction.

LosingGrip

8,287 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Hill Hunter said:
Or if the same effort spent monitoring motorists for breaking the law was also spent catching rapists, shop lifters, car thief’s…
Interestingly, more likely to be killed or seriously hurt in a collision than murdered/life changing/life threatening injuries from something else.

nute

823 posts

121 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Hill Hunter said:
Or if the same effort spent monitoring motorists for breaking the law was also spent catching rapists, shop lifters, car thief’s…
…or fixing the roads so they are safe to use.

Griffith4ever

5,530 posts

49 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Geffg said:
It’s the places these are placed that most people have beef about. As has been said if they were placed near schools etc no one would ever complain. But they’re always on good stretches of road, and just as a limit drops to a 30. Yes we should be doing 30 at that point but most people just ease off and so get caught.
I know of a few where I don’t think I’ve ever seen or heard of accidents, wide 2 lane either side road big central reservation and a cemetery on one side see them there often.
We just have to understand motorists give a lot of money and when anyone’s needing extra money they look to motorists.
A lot of money is spent on detecting any infringement possible, just wish they’d spend as much clearing up crime.
Geff, you are not alone in this train of thought. Sadly people don't see it, and, this forum is populated with active police. They are picking low hanging fruit and its been happening for many years. Dress it up all you like, its not ok. Where I live, they have been taking the piss so much they have had to respond (with a bullst esxcuse about the legal definition of speed limit repeaters), abusing a clearly confusing speed limit change. I don't think I know anyone who respects the police these days.

LosingGrip

8,287 posts

173 months

Wednesday 5th February
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nute said:
…or fixing the roads so they are safe to use.
That's got nothing to do with the police...

Don't think I've ever been to a fatal where the road surface has been an issue.

Speed on the other hand...I know of four off the top of my head.

2020vision

470 posts

10 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Geffg said:
It’s the places these are placed that most people have beef about. As has been said if they were placed near schools etc no one would ever complain. But they’re always on good stretches of road, and just as a limit drops to a 30. Yes we should be doing 30 at that point but most people just ease off and so get caught.
I know of a few where I don’t think I’ve ever seen or heard of accidents, wide 2 lane either side road big central reservation and a cemetery on one side see them there often.
We just have to understand motorists give a lot of money and when anyone’s needing extra money they look to motorists.
A lot of money is spent on detecting any infringement possible, just wish they’d spend as much clearing up crime.
This is the most tiresome and daft thing that is repeated about speed cameras.

What do you do when you drive past a school?

Is it to zoom past at the fastest speed you would like or do you take some care? I suspect the latter or you would not have suggested putting the speed camera there, daft as it is.

Site them next to schools and it is unlikely there will be many speeding, or have I missed the point of the daft suggestion that areas near schools deserve the best care to be taken by even the most keen of drivers.

These devices are speed cameras, hence they are located where drivers are likely to use excess speed. Learn where these are and take care not to become a victim of the speed camera. Your post does suggest that you know where they are likely to be so why do you think they are difficult to avoid?

It ain't difficult, it's not rocket science, however your logic and that of many others who want speed cameras near schools and hospitals indicates that you fire no rockets. Why hospitals? I have never seen that as a scene of likely dangers on the roads.

2020vision

470 posts

10 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Dashnine said:
In rural Warwickshire, where blanket 50mph limits are in place on previously 60mph roads for no reason whatsoever, the preferred camera van locations are towards the end of long straights. By the time you’ve exited the corner onto the straight it’s too late and you’re done by their laser and telephoto lens.

No accident blackspots, difficult junctions, schools, old folks homes for miles in either direction.
There's your reason!

Patio

1,102 posts

25 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Hill Hunter said:
Or if the same effort spent monitoring motorists for breaking the law was also spent catching rapists, shop lifters, car thief’s…
One generates a revenue stream and the others don't

Shooter McGavin

8,174 posts

158 months

Wednesday 5th February
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Whereabouts around Reading/Sonning/Bracknell OP?

That’s my commute y’see.