Illegal Number Plates

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bad company

Original Poster:

20,385 posts

280 months

Sunday 23rd February
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Is this really an issue? I doubt very many drivers are using ‘invisibility’ number plates:-

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/...

paradigital

1,033 posts

166 months

Sunday 23rd February
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I’ve no idea what an “invisibility” number plate is, and the “article” is on one of those unreadable garbage local “news” sites where you get three words for every twelve dubious adverts, so I can’t check the article for details.

But the amount of pillocks that drive round with those barely reflective tinted number plates is ridiculous.

carl_w

9,839 posts

272 months

Sunday 23rd February
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paradigital said:
I’ve no idea what an “invisibility” number plate is, and the “article” is on one of those unreadable garbage local “news” sites where you get three words for every twelve dubious adverts, so I can’t check the article for details.
I understand it's a coating so that the letters appear normal in visible light, but invisible to the infrared cameras. Mainly used for avoiding the congestion charge, although I do recall there was an article about someone using them to avoid being caught by a hand held radar and then being prosecuted for PCoJ.

InitialDave

13,123 posts

133 months

Sunday 23rd February
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It reads to me as if they're trying to get readers to infer that there's a criminal element using some kind of plate that isn't picked up properly on cameras. So it can seem like it's something really nefarious.

In reality, it's just going to be people having either clone/duplicate or totally ficticious reg numbers put on plates without going through their inane system of providing documents etc.

Most people getting plates made through any kind of sidestepping of the system aren't doing so because they're trying to get away with abything serious, it's just because the requirements to do it "properly" are awkward and inconvenient.
It's a bit of clear acrylic with some sticky vinyl on it, of course I'm just going to order it from whoever I can do do cheaply without leaving my house or posting my documents to some random.

Just another one of those things where normal people get to enjoy extra hassle in their life for no reason or benefit while being lied to that it helps prevent actual crime.

carl_w

9,839 posts

272 months

Sunday 23rd February
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InitialDave said:
It reads to me as if they're trying to get readers to infer that there's a criminal element using some kind of plate that isn't picked up properly on cameras. So it can seem like it's something really nefarious.
Like the plates on this thread? https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

OutInTheShed

11,176 posts

40 months

Sunday 23rd February
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It seems to me that it's cheap and easy to buy the normal BSAU-whatever plates with n questions asked.
I bought one for my trailer just the other day.

People driving around with plates intended to be unreadable by eye or machine need sorting out.
TBH, it's about time we had something more foolproof than textual number plates.

Getting plates is perhaps too easy, if the level of cloning is as bad as some people claim?

InitialDave

13,123 posts

133 months

Sunday 23rd February
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carl_w said:
Did that one ever get resolved?

OP seemed to vanish.

carl_w

9,839 posts

272 months

Sunday 23rd February
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InitialDave said:
Did that one ever get resolved?

OP seemed to vanish.
No I think OP got called out for what he had done (modifying the plates with a substance to make some of the digits illegible to cameras) and disappeared.

I'm not really sure what his plan was, print out the thread and show it in court if it had gone his way?

xx99xx

2,543 posts

87 months

Sunday 23rd February
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InitialDave said:
It reads to me as if they're trying to get readers to infer that there's a criminal element using some kind of plate that isn't picked up properly on cameras. So it can seem like it's something really nefarious.

In reality, it's just going to be people having either clone/duplicate or totally ficticious reg numbers put on plates without going through their inane system of providing documents etc.

Most people getting plates made through any kind of sidestepping of the system aren't doing so because they're trying to get away with abything serious, it's just because the requirements to do it "properly" are awkward and inconvenient.
It's a bit of clear acrylic with some sticky vinyl on it, of course I'm just going to order it from whoever I can do do cheaply without leaving my house or posting my documents to some random.

Just another one of those things where normal people get to enjoy extra hassle in their life for no reason or benefit while being lied to that it helps prevent actual crime.
It's really not that difficult to get a set of proper plates made. However, you would have to specifically request some sort of anti camera effect if getting them from somewhere 'unofficial' as I doubt 'anti camera' is their default material.

I'm not sure about your 'extra hassle in their life for no reason or benefit'. There is a clear reason and benefit. The benefit may not be yours but that doesn't make you immune, unless you're a freeman on the land type?

InitialDave

13,123 posts

133 months

Sunday 23rd February
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xx99xx said:
unless you're a freeman on the land type?
No, I just think the claim of the system being any real impediment to people intending to break the law is nonsense, and it does nothing to stop people actually up to no good still doing whatever they want.

carl_w

9,839 posts

272 months

Sunday 23rd February
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InitialDave said:
No, I just think the claim of the system being any real impediment to people intending to break the law is nonsense, and it does nothing to stop people actually up to no good still doing whatever they want.
Not when you can get legal plates from eBay it doesn't. But do non-car people know this or do they trudge down to their local Halfords with their reg docs?

FilH

896 posts

158 months

Sunday 23rd February
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Any link to these so called "ghost" or "stealth" plates, asking for a friend!


As any ive, sorry hes ever seen are a load of crap and belive this news article is talking horse muck , along with filling the article with a load of anoying adds.

xx99xx

2,543 posts

87 months

Sunday 23rd February
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FilH said:
Any link to these so called "ghost" or "stealth" plates, asking for a friend!


As any ive, sorry hes ever seen are a load of crap and belive this news article is talking horse muck , along with filling the article with a load of anoying adds.
Did you not try an internet search? Try key word 'stealthplate'. Although, judging by your 2nd 'paragraph' I can understand why you wouldn't have thought to look it up for yourself.

Dave _

106 posts

133 months

Sunday 23rd February
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FilH said:
Any link to these so called "ghost" or "stealth" plates, asking for a friend!


As any ive, sorry hes ever seen are a load of crap and belive this news article is talking horse muck , along with filling the article with a load of anoying adds.
You can see how they work in this video

https://youtu.be/Yrn-wD4vs1g?si=_BYHzTn3cnlH61pQ

FilH

896 posts

158 months

Sunday 23rd February
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xx99xx said:
FilH said:
Any link to these so called "ghost" or "stealth" plates, asking for a friend!


As any ive, sorry hes ever seen are a load of crap and belive this news article is talking horse muck , along with filling the article with a load of anoying adds.
Did you not try an internet search? Try key word 'stealthplate'. Although, judging by your 2nd 'paragraph' I can understand why you wouldn't have thought to look it up for yourself.
Bloody hell, even thats bad for me! Looked ok when I typed and read it in my head. Now reading it again, im not even sure what im on about!

No drink or drugs involved, think my brain has just given up!

Pueblo

36 posts

20 months

Monday 24th February
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bad company said:
This one looks good, not that I’d consider such a purchase obviously. wink

https://www.stealthplate.co.uk/a-glowing-endorseme...
Watching the installation video on that site where he empathised the importance of alignment as the adhesive is super strong.
He then tries to show how he gets the trapped air out (still had quite a bit left imo) and did wonder how this would be possible if the adhesive was that good ?
Big play again about sealing the edges (?) Water getting in and ruining it all ?
Odds on for most it would turn out a right mess.

Drawweight

3,285 posts

130 months

Monday 24th February
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What’s the punishment if you get caught using them to avoid a speeding charge?

Is it perverting the course of justice or wouldn’t that stick?

OutInTheShed

11,176 posts

40 months

Monday 24th February
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I had to laugh a while back.
Twunt with illegal plate had a very hard time getting out of an ANPR car park, because the machine couldn't read his plate.

SS427 Camaro

7,404 posts

184 months

Monday 24th February
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InitialDave said:
It reads to me as if they're trying to get readers to infer that there's a criminal element using some kind of plate that isn't picked up properly on cameras. So it can seem like it's something really nefarious.

In reality, it's just going to be people having either clone/duplicate or totally ficticious reg numbers put on plates without going through their inane system of providing documents etc.

Most people getting plates made through any kind of sidestepping of the system aren't doing so because they're trying to get away with abything serious, it's just because the requirements to do it "properly" are awkward and inconvenient.
It's a bit of clear acrylic with some sticky vinyl on it, of course I'm just going to order it from whoever I can do do cheaply without leaving my house or posting my documents to some random.

Just another one of those things where normal people get to enjoy extra hassle in their life for no reason or benefit while being lied to that it helps prevent actual crime.
Perfectly said…..

2020vision

470 posts

10 months

Tuesday 25th February
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SS427 Camaro said:
InitialDave said:
It reads to me as if they're trying to get readers to infer that there's a criminal element using some kind of plate that isn't picked up properly on cameras. So it can seem like it's something really nefarious.

In reality, it's just going to be people having either clone/duplicate or totally ficticious reg numbers put on plates without going through their inane system of providing documents etc.

Most people getting plates made through any kind of sidestepping of the system aren't doing so because they're trying to get away with abything serious, it's just because the requirements to do it "properly" are awkward and inconvenient.
It's a bit of clear acrylic with some sticky vinyl on it, of course I'm just going to order it from whoever I can do do cheaply without leaving my house or posting my documents to some random.

Just another one of those things where normal people get to enjoy extra hassle in their life for no reason or benefit while being lied to that it helps prevent actual crime.
Perfectly said…..
I sincerely hope that you both and none of your relatives ever need a vehicle and driver who has caused you harm to be identified by such a plate.
Just let everyone do as they please and see how we all get on with that.